Did anyone else feel like their relationship was like Father/Daughter?

24 posts / 0 new
Last post
#1 Sep 30 - 4PM
onwithmylife
onwithmylife's picture

Did anyone else feel like their relationship was like Father/Daughter?

I always had this underlying feeling like it was a Father/daughter relationship with my EXN, like a forbidden thing, he use to treat me like his real daughter and at times I had to say to him" I am not your daughter, maybe that is where the kinkiness of it all came into play. Make sense with anyone here?

Oct 3 - 9AM
Steph
Steph's picture

I always felt it was more a

I always felt it was more a "mother/son" relationship. He wanted me to baby him and give hime the love he didn't feel from his mom. When he raged at me, he told me I was like his mother. I payed for her mistakes. Just like every woman after me will.
Oct 3 - 11AM (Reply to #23)
MovinOnUp
MovinOnUp's picture

Mother/Son

I think in some ways I was attracted to him because he was kinda indifferent and may have reminded me of my father... But our relationship in many ways resembled a mother/son relationship. Me caring for him. His mother was/is cold and selfish to the core.
Oct 1 - 12PM
gettinbetter
gettinbetter's picture

The girlfriend my n had

The girlfriend my n had prior to re entering my life was 22 when they met and he was 38?? When I mentioned to him that I found it a bit strange for him, He replied "It was like I was raising her". Ok now that's just straight up weird. I thought to myself so you are sleeping with somebody you see as a daughter! What a freak!
Oct 1 - 9AM
helldweller
helldweller's picture

father, daughter

No. Owner/dog. Or master/slave. I think he would have been great as one of those polygamists you see on news magazines: you know the old school Mormoms who still have multiple wives? He totallly has that demeanor. And his other women totally remind me of that: they each have their own room, and when he wants sex he just picks a room and there she is. He's got all of these other women out there that never come over to his house, I don't think they go out in public either. They are just waiting for him, just like the babysitter who asks no questions and is just there to serve. I could not fit in with the other "wives."
Oct 3 - 6AM (Reply to #20)
TNR1
TNR1's picture

About Big Love...

Although it would seem like a perfect set up for the N, remember that it isn't all about the sex, polygamists have multiple wives (meaning multiple woman who are their responsibility). Truthfully I think this set up would truly repulse a Narcissist who does't want to be responsible for the needs of anyone but himself. I think a scenario that actually appeals to them better is to consider themself as a King and these women as subjects (think Henry VIII).
Oct 1 - 10AM (Reply to #19)
Susan32
Susan32's picture

Teacher/student

The ex-Psych professor used the teacher/student relationship as an excuse to emotionally abuse me. After the D&D, I told him, "I guess since you're the teacher, that means you can trample on your students' feelings and treat them however you want?" It kinda shocked him. Since I was the one who had declared my love, I was the one who had "acted inappropriately",so he'd publicly rebuke me till I was in tears. He'd lecture me endlessly. After the D&D, I told him, "All you had to say was that you already had a girlfriend, you did NOT have to constantly lecture me." Throughout the D&D, I'd keep my distance, but he'd hunt me down and say "Did you learn your lesson?" I was CONSTANTLY apologizing, even when I was the one crying. He acted as if my declaration of love were some sort of humiliation. He'd say "I'm offended/I'm embarrassed/I'm disappointed." The first time I told him I loved him... he wouldn't look me in the eyes and coldly said "I'm offended." Being empathic, I'd say "I care about you. Why are you SO ANGRY?" He'd deny being angry, but I'd sense his anger. Towards the end, I was faking my apologies and saying "I'm sorry I'm human, I'm sorry I have feelings" or in a condescending way "You're always right, I'm always wrong, because you're the teacher." I told him I was SICK of being the only one apologizing. I tried to corner him into apologizing. I wasn't above using the carrot/stick method for apologies. I dangled NS before him, saying I'd go back to admiring him if he apologized. But he didn't go for it. He couldn't even fake an apology. When I congratulated him on being engaged, he threw a fit, saying I was "violating" him. By then, I didn't care how I was treating him. I saw his boundaries as nothing but to be crossed at will. And he could cross my boundaries like you can enter North Korea.
Oct 1 - 7AM
sunflowergrl70
sunflowergrl70's picture

Yep, right on.

He called me "sweetie" when leaving messages like he did with his daughter. I HATE being called "sweetie". It's such a generic name. I started seeing similarities with the way he treated me and the way he treated his daughter. There were times when he actually tried to possibly cause some rivalry. One night we were all watching movies. Him and I were on the couch together. His daughter came home from practice and he asked her to sit on the other side of him. He then got a blanket and put it over them. He watched the movie while under the blanket with his daughter. It was creepy. I was on the other side and he was trying to put his hands on me too. It GROSSED me out. I actually didn't see him for a few days after because it icked me out so bad.
Oct 1 - 10AM (Reply to #11)
mystwoman
mystwoman's picture

My xhn did all of this to me

My xhn did all of this to me as well, including calling me "sweetie" and cuddling his daughter under a blanket while trying to grope me at the same time. It was revolting and creepy to me, too. I also would wake up sometimes on the weekends alone in the bed. When I'd go to see where N was, he'd be in bed with his oldest daughter snuggling. Uck. Never the youngest one, just the oldest. I don't necessarily think there was anything sexual going on between them, but it smacked of emotional incest to me. I, also, think that like you, sunflowergrl, that my xnh was trying to cause a rivalry. I think he just LOVED the drama. In fact, N's oldest daughter and my xnh's constant enabling her was a big contributing factor in my finally saying "enough" and throwing his butt out the door when he threatened me with divorce one too many times. She's a pregnant junkie involved with gangs to this day, and to this day N is still totally obsessed with her. I find their relationship to be very gross and sick. He GROSSLY favors her over his youngest daughter (and always has). Of course, she's thoroughly happy with herself that she helped split us up. My xh in an N. I, also, think his oldest daughter is a P. They're pretty close to a matched set.

______________________________________________________
God sometimes removes a person from your life for your protection. Don't run after them.

Oct 3 - 9AM (Reply to #17)
tynk3377
tynk3377's picture

wow,just wow...

I experienced this too. Asking N to come sit with me on the couch,he got up and left the room. 15 mins later I went to look for him and found him spooning his 18 year old daughter in her bed. I got angry and went to bed, he followed me in the room and when I said it was inappropriate HE got mad and told me I had a nasty mind. Really? You spent 6 hours in front of the TV, I ask you to spend some time with me and you get up and lay in bed with your 18 yr old totally ignoring me and I have no right to be upset??? And yes she is just as manipulitive as he is...she learned from the best I guess...and she is also over her head in boy drama and she just loves to control daddy with it...funny how in hind sight I see how he caused triangulation with her and me, and she used triangulation with her boyfrinds and daddy...wow...this is some sick shit...
Oct 1 - 4PM (Reply to #16)
terri
terri's picture

Eewwwww-

My exN called me "sweetie" all the time too. I find this incredibly weird that it seems to be a favorite narc nickname! He would use it often in the middle of a fight - he would calmly call me "sweetie" as if to be calming me down (more like talking down to me). Even after breakups when we were no longer together, he would refer to me as "sweetie". Weird!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Oct 1 - 11AM (Reply to #12)
sunflowergrl70
sunflowergrl70's picture

Emotional incest

I'm not sure what it was. They had/have a bizarre relationship. She KNOWS him and knows just how to manipulate him. She has a bit of a seductive side to her and she's very nicey-nice to your face. She goes through spells where for whatever reason she gets pissed at him and calls him up outraged by his behavior. Then she won't talk to him for months until she wants something. She was a big reason why I pulled the plug on this relationship for good. One night at 10 at night she called him up yelling at him and calling him a bad father. THEN two weeks later called him up like nothing happened and wanted him to pay for a belly button ring! Seriously. Or she'll go for months not talking to him and he'll refuse something she wants in order to make her talk to him. He even told her he was cutting her off and not paying for her college. Funny thing about her is that she is turning into him. They play this game where they are nice to people that come over to their house (including his mother). When the person isn't around they sit around the livingroom making fun of the person or discecting what they said or did and making fun of them. It used to make me wonder what they were saying about me and my kids so I tried not to have to much contact with her. I sensed her to be just as poisonous as he is.
Oct 1 - 12PM (Reply to #15)
mystwoman
mystwoman's picture

My xhn's oldest daughter is

My xhn's oldest daughter is turning into him as well. Right down to N's violent fighting tactics. He screamed at her in one fight they had before she moved out, "Where in the hell did you learn to be so nasty?" She yelled back, "From you." So true. Like I said above, they're a matched set in so many ways. Like your N and his daughter, my xnh and his daughter have always had a really bizarre relationship. He's obsessed with her and treats her like an extension of himself. She will not speak to him for months so that he can't control her (unless, of course, she wants to use him for something - she DOES love his wallet). For brief periods, they will act almost symbiotic with each other. They've always acted emotionally (to me) more like spouses than father and daughter. I've always found it truly offensive. He used to tell his oldest daughter (and his mother) ALL about our marital problems. He wouldn't discuss them with ME (his wife) but HIS side of our dirty laundry was well know to the both of them. Trust me, this caused extreme friction between N, me, her, and his mommy. There is a pretty good definition of emotional incest here, you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_incest

______________________________________________________
God sometimes removes a person from your life for your protection. Don't run after them.

Oct 1 - 11AM (Reply to #13)
Susan32
Susan32's picture

Narcs and other Narcs...

It seriously sounds like your ex-N has turned his daughter into him... that's the danger of Narcs having children. Sometimes, the children of Narcs end up being Narcs themselves as a way to protect themselves. She learned how to manipulate, insult others... from him. That's why it's heartrending to hear from women here who are mothers with Ns.
Oct 1 - 11AM (Reply to #14)
sunflowergrl70
sunflowergrl70's picture

She's his twin

She looks exactly like him except of course she's a girl. She's quite beautiful, very intelligent, and excels as a cheerleader. She goes to church and participates there as well. She went on a mission trip and in order to raise money all the kids had to wait on tables for a dinner the church had. Her father and I went and sat at a table with a VERY Christian family. They were a lovely family albiet not part of the usual upper crust of this church. After the dinner his daughter called and said "why were you sitting at that table with those rednecks"? I couldn't believe what a snobby, bitchy thing came out of her mouth! She has had drama with boys too. She completely upended a New Years eve because she was "suicidal" because some jerk boyfriend kept texting her that he was cheating on her at some stupid party. So of course we had to change our plans so he could drive to New York with his boys because they didn't want to be in the same car as her and her mother. Just dumb! She gets a sore throat and carries on and expects attention from the whole family. I can't stand her.
Oct 1 - 2AM
Mariline
Mariline's picture

I am 42 and he was (is) 61.

I am 42 and he was (is) 61. Yes it looked like that.
Oct 3 - 2AM (Reply to #9)
Susan32
Susan32's picture

The age difference

I was 18 when I met the ex-Psych professor. He was 32. At the time of the D&D, I was 22 and he was 36 (plus looking old for his age,he did not age gracefully) He D&D'd a 22 year old for a 32 year old.
Sep 30 - 11PM
TNR1
TNR1's picture

No...I was treated more like a pet or an object...

If he was happy he would say "Good girl", like I was a dog. Or he would talk in terms that I can only describe as him viewing me as a live blow up doll. I was addicted and repulsed....
Oct 1 - 1AM (Reply to #7)
kiwi10
kiwi10's picture

i guess i was more like a

i guess i was more like a dog too, good point.
Sep 30 - 10PM
Susan32
Susan32's picture

Definitely yes...

I was 15 years younger than the ex-Psych professor. Oddly, he D&D'd me for an older woman, who was only 5 years younger (thus of the same generation) The ex-P would scold me for "inappropriate behavior" and "propriety" when I declared my love. He'd emotionally abuse me, then tell me "did you learn your lesson?" I was his student, NOT his child (but he'd later end up fathering kids with the OW) He'd scold me if I wore a dress, calling me a slut, but was fine if I dressed tomboyishly and was his little clone. After I declared my love, during the D&D, he'd subject to me loooong, boring lectures. And he'd lecture me in front of his colleagues AND my classmates, to the point of tears. Once, I needed to pick up some $$$ from the student union. I bluntly told him "if you don't want me around, I'll go. I have to go right now" and he ordered me to sit down. He'd order me around, order me to eat. When we were on the phone, he'd bark "Don't hang up on me!" After meeting the OW, I told him "All you had to say was that you already had a girlfriend, you did NOT have to endlessly lecture me." Like an automaton, he'd say "You were inappropriate" instead of APOLOGIZE.
Sep 30 - 11PM
Susan32
Susan32's picture

Double post...

Double post. Sorry.
Sep 30 - 5PM
positivefuture
positivefuture's picture

oh yes

if i would not sit down and listen to him he would tell me "i am going to have to scold you - come over here and sit down and listen to me now." and then he would literally scold me like i was his child. WFT scold me??? or if i'd say something snappy back to him he'd tell me he'd have to punnish me, or give me points. yes, points. i was on a point system and if it went to high (10 points was the limit) i would be punished. now the punishment was usually a long boring lecture, or not getting to see him, or with holding sex. and granted i would get punished for having my PERIOD! really? like i can control that? when he'd ask me a question like if i'd been dating back in the state i live in (we were long distance) he'd dig his nails into me and say "don't you lie to me or you'll be in trouble." literally like i was his child. ugh! these people!
Sep 30 - 5PM
kiwi10
kiwi10's picture

OMG

yes, so so much. he used to talk to me like i was 8 years old when he was pleased with me. he used to walk me around in public by my neck. he used to liek to be called daddy... on and on.. he even asked me to pretend i was his daughter several times.
Sep 30 - 4PM
mystwoman
mystwoman's picture

I don't know if my xnh

I don't know if my xnh thought "father/daughter" about our relationship specifically. I think that if he had expected me to act like I was his daughter, I would not have tolerated it. Ewww. However, I do know that he tried to order me around on a regular basis just like I was one of his daughters. I, too, have told my nxh many times, "I'm not your daughter, and I'm not a child." Of course, I've also told him on many occasions, "Just because you're bossy, doesn't mean that you're my boss." :)

______________________________________________________
God sometimes removes a person from your life for your protection. Don't run after them.