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#1 Jun 6 - 9PM
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I posted this story in another part of the forum and realized it should have been posted here. I am posting the story here with additional information.

I just exited a 15 year "relationship" with a somatic narcissist. Of course, I now know the man I was in love with was his False Self, a man who does not and never did exist. Because of my own avoident and dependent personality traits, he found me to be an excellent source of narcissitic supply. Our relationship started out with him appearing to be the man of my dreams, he was charming, told me funny stories, told me all about HIM! I should have been listening closer, he told me had slept with over 150 women but had never been unfaithful to his wife of 10 years...not until me anyway. Later he told me stories that sounded like being unfaithful although he never admitted to actual intercourse... he propositioned his wife's sister for instance although she turned him down.

He had his hand in several women's pants during his marriage. I always told him that was cheating... in fact I told him sex did not have to occur in order for cheating to occur. You could talk behind your partners back or have an emotional affair... blah blah blah... I know that fell on deaf ears! Basically he told me who he was and I persisted in thinking I was the exception...NOT!

When his wife left him several years after the beginning of our affair my gut reaction told me "our relationship" was over but I put on my rose colored glasses and reminded myself that this was what I had been waiting for. I should have listened to my gut. He had other relationships... fleeting ones or on-line relationships... after we started our affair and before he left his wife. He tried to hide these from me.

After his wife left, I stood by him during his resultant narcissistic injury and then again during his bankruptcy and when he up and quit his job and lived off his 401K and credit cards. I finally told him it was time to get a job... not because he was relying on me...he never did that, but because it was time to get on his feet. I helped him get the job he now holds which is a very good one but he hates it and I can easily see him up and quitting again. Whenever his relationships with other women began to intrude on my awareness he said I was crazy, that he was faithful to me and would never do the things I thought were happening.

Now I know that what I thought was happening was happening only a lot more than I suspected at the time. He said to me once...you always worry about the ones you shouldn't worry about. This meant I am sure, you should worry about ALL of them because if they give me the green light I am gonna go for it every time! Our relationship had its ups and downs but his abuse tended towards the subtle. Out of the blue he would accuse me of cheating for instance... he thought I was like him I am sure. Or he would say I did not contribute to the household chores fairly. He cooked most of the meals and did his share of housework and I lived in his home without paying the bills. In that way he was not textbook.

The thing that broke the story open began when I had to move in with my father to care for him a year and a half. Without my constant adoration he began to seek supply elsewhere. After my father died and I returned to what I always thought was home... his house... he could not back off the levels of attention he was seeking elsewhere. Additionally, he bragged to a close family member about his escapades. Then I saw where he had himself as a single man with one daughter (he has two but only one meets his standards and he has a son also who is rarely mentioned at all)with no mention of me on his online chat room profile. I left furious but returned to him a week later...I was weak and did not yet know the monster. My friend told me... he has not hurt you bad enough yet. I moved back in with him but left again less than 3 weeks later. This time for good. Now I know what he is. And I am OK with that. I am moving on with my life.

Before I finally figured him out he usually hid his need for primary narcissistic supply in the form of any woman who would spread her legs both on-line and/or in person. I finally saw with my own eyes exactly what he was doing. Before I left, I juiced him up good with more sex than he could handle. In fact, our last encounter, I woke up and asked him for sex, I could tell he did not really want to (he had not taken his prescription medicine to facilitate erection in several days) but when I said, "What, are you turning me down? The satyr in him had to go along. He had a hard time achieving an erection and I doubt he had an orgasm. I actually feel good that our last sexual act together was this extremely disappointing one. This because he fancied himself a lover without equal. His semi-soft penis actually traumatized me and I used that as an excuse to avoid sex with him as I planned my departure 3 days later.

The next 2 days I spent assuring him of what a Good Man he was and how I was wrong to EVER doubt his intentions towards me. I also told him I hoped his daughter married a man every bit as Good as him. That was for him as I would never wish that on his daughters; their cross is already big enough to bear. Yes, I lied to the liar. I also managed to develop what if stories that required him to say what he thought of or would do in such situations that I contrived and he told me one lie after another. He was actually doing all of the things that I got him to admit were cheating or monstrous. In this way I achieved my own closure.

When he left for work that last day, I packed my things, gathered up all the personal sex tapes and pictures he had of me, left him a note that said everything but nothing specific and also told him I would not contact him and requesting the same of him and wishing him all the happiness in the world. I have not spoken to him in 3 weeks. He emailed, called, even came by my work, started out with typical narcissistic rage, calling me a 'good actress', then accused me of theft (a lie), backpedaled on the theft, appealed to my goodness and desire for honesty in our relationship to give him "closure" because he desperately wants to know what I know and how I came to know it. I will never tell him.

When I do see him, and I will, although not by any contrivance on my part, I will smile at him non-commitally and ask him how are you, all the while communicating I have moved on. When I think now of how much I loved him or how exciting sex sometimes was with him, I remind myself that the man I loved does not and never did exist.

Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it that often.
If you keep doing what you are doing then, you will keep getting what you are getting.

Jun 21 - 1PM
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We meet

Ok. When I left him in May I had just the previous week made airline reservations to fly west, spend a few days with my family, then fly a little further west and meet him, then we were to fly back together. I changed my plans to stay with my family the entire week but the flight back east was a problem. I changed the seat so I would not be sitting with him but we would be flying back on the same plane. As I waited to depart on this flight we shared I spotted him in line and I am sure he also spotted me but I did not waste my time trying to catch his eye. He boarded and then I did and I did not see him as I made it to my seat. During the flight I happened to see him return to his seat when I was checking the status of the restrooms. When I went to the restroom I simply did not look his way. By the way, I wore a dress, heels, makeup, nail polish, and in general looked pretty sharp and confident. This was part of the plan to show him I had moved on and was doing just fine. I know he did not fail to notice. I made a point to exit the plane on arrival before he could get up to go. We were only a few rows apart. I sure did not want to give him the opportunity to help me with my bag. As I walked up the terminal, he zoomed past me, close by. When he had gone about ten feet beyond me I called out and said, "Hey "N", how are you?" He turned and said "Hey, how are you?" I simply replied, "I am doing good." He turned,looking like a fish out of water and continued on at a rapid pace. A few minutes later as I continued up the terminal, I saw him squatting along the opposite wall and I presume watching for me. I paid him no mind and continued. My ride was waiting for me and we loaded up and went to leave. Suddenly, "N" darted out in front of the car looking positively in some kind of pain. We paid him no mind. The next day he sent me the following letter (which I have not responded to): "My name", I have been contemplating all night and day about contacting you again. I feel like i was an ass to you after getting off the plane and i didn't mean to be. I was just shocked to see you there and emotions were stirred and i didn't have a clue as what to do. Im sorry to have acted the way i did. I could have least been able to be decent. I dont know what happened between us , but I think you would at least give me a reason after i thought everything was working out so much better. I think i have a good i dea of what happened but i would like to hear it from you. I was slowley moving on until i seen you and it started making me wonder again.. Then i realised it was your car that let me pass after i looked at the plate on the front and looked back... Anyways, Just do me one favor and give me an explanation. No matter what it is, I can deal with it..I think you owe me that much. You can E-mail or call, doesn't matter. Take Care,"N" If he had approached me at the airport asking me why I left I was prepared to answer him very briefly, in a very noncommital voice, and without any of the details he so desperately seeks. He will never know what I know about him or how I learned it. But obviously he does know what he did...he just does not know what I know. This is making him crazy but I think he deserves a little crazy. However, I owe this man absolutely nothing. I am thinking about doing the analysis of his email in the Narcspeak section. It is after all, Classic stuff.
Jun 22 - 10AM (Reply to #14)
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Analysis of his email: Narc Speak

I have been contemplating all night and day about contacting you again. I know I said I was not going to contact you again for the fifth or sixth time but, it is making me so sick I cannot sleep knowing you could leave me without looking back! I feel like i was an ass to you after getting off the plane and i didn't mean to be. Of course I was not an ass because I am perfect but I am trying to get you to see me as a caring human being instead of the monster I am and I will say this for that reason. I was just shocked to see you there and emotions were stirred and i didn't have a clue as what to do. How could you look so confident and unaffected when I have lost control of the situation? I need you to pity me so you will tell me what I did that made you leave. Then I will be better prepared for my next victim. Im sorry to have acted the way i did. I could have least been able to be decent. I am never sorry for how I act only for getting caught. I am only saying this so you pity me and allow me access to you so that you will tell me what you know. I dont know what happened between us , but I think you would at least give me a reason after i thought everything was working out so much better. You told me I was a good man and that you should have never doubted me and then you left without a word! I was getting my cake and eating it too! I thought you were groveling at my feet and that is my definition of things working out better. I think i have a good idea of what happened but i would like to hear it from you. I have not got a clue as to why you left! You have to tell me how you figured out my game so I can cover my tracks better the next time. I was slowley moving on until i seen you and it started making me wonder again.. I keep trying to figure out how you figured me out! It is driving me crazy that you exposed my game and I don’t know how you did it! Then i realised it was your car that let me pass after i looked at the plate on the front and looked back... I stalked you through the airport and kept giving you opportunities to approach me so you could explain yourself but you never did! Your last chance was when I practically gave you an opportunity to run over me and you just drove on! No one does that to ME! I looked back in disbelief that you did not stop and make your confession! Anyways, Just do me one favor and give me an explanation. No matter what it is, I can deal with it..I think you owe me that much. You can E-mail or call, doesn't matter. I have to know what you know and how you learned what my game is. I am smarter than you and cannot believe you or any other mere mortal could figure me out. You owe me because I am better than you and deserve special rights and consideration! I am scared to speak to you in person because you appear immune to my omnipotence (How!?!) but, email or phone will not threaten me as much and I have to know what you know! I cannot deal with my ignorance! Take Care, N See, I really am a nice guy.
Jun 12 - 11PM
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a woman after my own heart :)

i love it! this story is so like me in my stronger days. well, i guess it still is since i'm still the "dumper" in all relationships. unfortunately i am not as physically strong as i once was and that was bad for me. i am also not as financially strong as i once was. also bad. i am in the process of getting out of yet another relationship with an N and what you did is so close to my plan it was like you read my mind :). keep that NC girl! that is how to actually take back some of what they took from you. being happy and never looking back is the best revenge. so happy for you.
Jun 13 - 7PM (Reply to #12)
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thank you pegasas

I sometimes still miss the man who never was. I do not want to see or hear from that monster that he really is. The day approaches when I may (likely will) have to speak to and see him. I will share all after that day. Meanwhile, I am schooling myself to respond to him without emotion or information. I will explain all of this soon. I hate to say this but, I spent 15 years with him being lied to and cheated on the entire time. My ex-husband was also an N. I spent 19 years living with him before leaving and divorced him after 27 years. Why did I wait so long to divorce him? He also lied and cheated during our entire time together. The push came when I wanted to buy real estate and the state I live in would have made me put him on the title if we were married and that was never going to happen. I did not divorce him before this because it made me unvailable to the N I was with (the one I just left) or any other man. I did not trust myself when it came to choosing mates after my husband. And sadder still, my ex-husband was (at least) my second N. The man I was with right before him was also N. I was with him for 3 years. He dumped me and then wanted to get back together 6 weeks later but I was with the future husband then. He still stalked me and tried to win me back. Looking back, had I not been with future husband N, I would have returned to that sorry excuse for a man. So I have made a habit of picking loser N's. This has made me do some soul searching and I plan to share that with the board also. Sort of the why these men appealed to me when they are actually so wrong for anyone. I really appreciate the support this board offers both in telling my side and in receiving the strength and support of others. I hope I can help others find the strength to leave with no contact!
Jun 10 - 6AM
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welcome eyeswideopen

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Jun 9 - 9AM
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grateful for your support

I thank each and everyone of you for your supportive comments and ideas. I want to respond in greater detail but want to wait until I have something besides my Blackberry to do it with! There is more to my story than already expressed. I want to share that also...this is my 3rd N!!! But the main thing I want to share is that women like us, attracted sometimes to monsters, can change ourselves and find the happiness we deserve. Happiness and joy for life and love is possible for all of us. More later!
Jun 8 - 5AM
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eyeswideopen

Good for you! You have him grovelling. I wanted to tell you though; you said, "In that way, he wasn't textbook" Actually, by paying for the house and not making you contribute, he was covertly abusing you. This is cold and calculated. He used it to hold over your head. And I would put money on the assumption that he used that "truth" to talk down about you to others. That's what mine did. He cleaned the house and did all the yard work; he refused to acknowledge that I contributed too; but this was an attempt at crazy making as he previously had complimented my housework, then, without a word, would clean the house from top to bottom while I sat and cried, thinking I would never add up to what he was. Your ex is a sick man, eyeswideopen. You got him in the end and for that, I commend you. Did you ever try to contact the ex-wife? I understand there may be harsh feelings there but she may find some closure from your accounts of your relationship with him. Just curious. Thanks for sharing; you sound strong and knowledgeable. All the Best! http://hubpages.com/hub/Married-to-a-Narcissist?preview nolongercontrolled
Jun 10 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
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the ex-wife

I did consider contacting the ex-wife and would have no problem revealing my complicity in her failed marriage but, decided it would only put me at risk to the N. Since it is imperative that he never obtain any information about why I specifically came to leave the risk is to great that she would confront him. This would be an open door for him to harrass me. I appreciated your validating comments concerning how he used his contributions to the household chores to control and contain me and also to devalue and demean me. Thank you for your astute observations!
Jun 7 - 10PM
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Awesome story...

You kept your cool & had it all planned out. You don't have to worry bout him blackmailing you with any pics or videos, you took what was yours & you left him before he could dump you...priceless!
Jun 10 - 8AM (Reply to #6)
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those incriminating pics

I destroyed a dvd before I left in March. He was enraged. He accused his daughter and/or boyfriend of taking it and said it was my fault he accused them! WTF?? I told him I destroyed it and said it was my perogative to decide whether such media existed. Then when I left in March I destroyed additional media but forgot the still pictures. He was very angry about all of this also. I returned to him a week later and because I was so "on the fence" about the stability of our relationship, this time I identified everything he had that featured myself. I labeled these items for possible future needs, i.e. getting out clean. I managed to slide under the radar as to why I did this by saying I was searching for pictures of my grandchildren which I did do also. Then I bought him a video camera for his birthday in April and of course we made a movie. When I left in May, this time for the final time, I grabbed up all the media I had previously identified and that last movie. I had already left the house when I thought of his still camera, went back, found items on it and deleted them. The video camera...that is mine now. I did not give that to the man he was but, the man I thought he was. Needless to say he was mighty tic'ed off but is now being mister nice guy at least with those people who he is trying to talk to me through. He even gave the receipt for the camera back to me through another party. Part of his mister nice guy act. I don't owe him the time of day. NO CONTACT!
Jun 7 - 9PM
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Wow...I admire your strength

I couldn't do that with Mr. N. I thought I could end it on my terms because I saw the writing on the wall...but I always wanted "one more time". When he D&D'd me, I did not see it coming at all. So when I started with NC, I think by that time he had already moved on.
Jun 10 - 8AM (Reply to #4)
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one more time

I know what you mean by "one more time." I have given him one more chance so many times it would appear I did not know the meaning of "one." Never underestimate the ability of the N to believe he always has one more chance. You may have cut him deeper than you think! Keep up the NC!
Jun 7 - 6AM
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That sounds like you

That sounds like you devalued and dumped him. i was too low to be able to think of something like leaving how you left and too emotionally attached. Surely to be telling him how great he is before you leave etc etc is playing the same game of manipulation that he was playing with you. You sound very switched off to the emotion and devastation caused by living with a narcissist i have to say!
Jun 7 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
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playing his game

Last summer, while my Dad was still living and I could not attend to my N's needs, he tried to dump me in an email. I freaked...he said do not contact him but I did immediately. We stayed "together" albeit did not see much of each other. A couple months later in October he repeated this. My Dad's needswere so great of my time that this time I complied 100 percent. Two weeks later he called me sying we needed to talk meaning he wanted sex. After the sex, I said as much to him and told him ny Dad said, I know what he wants. He acted all hurt and I said so we are back together? And he said yes although I think he wanted to shift to booty call status. He knew I would not have that so he said we were together but in essense only in my head. I was ignorant of this. Then my Dad died, I moved back in, he wanted to get married. I could not jump into that after 16. Months apart and him dumping me twice while I cared for Daddy. Then when I told him I wanted to build a house on my land (for us) he said he would never move there. But I started plans to build anyway only told my daughter I wanted her to moved thdred and develop the property (a horse farm) then he suddenly changed his mind but I said NO as I already gave my daughter my word and was not going back on my promise. He started treating me very badly. I told him our relationship was more important than living on my "dream farm". We worked different shifts but he never made much effort to spend time with me. He would fall asleep on the couch then wake up and go online when I had to go to bed. I could hear him making disparaging remarks about me to his chatroom buddies. If I walked out he shut down IM's, became attentive to me. I became increasingly suspicious. We bickered constantly. He would blame me for everything saying I should trust him, I was crazy, he was a Good Man. What he said and what he did were not matching up. I was a basket case. Then I left the first time ( actually the 3rd time in our total 15 years together) this year. He started calling at first angry because I accused him of carrying on an online affair and making advances on my Dad's caregiver (very nice young girl who made it possible for me to continue work when my Dad was sick). Dumb me agreed to return to him. I stayed with him on his days off until his daughter and her boyfriend moved out 2 months later. He quit visiting chatooms when I was there but said don't deprive me of my friends and music room. He tried to make it sound like he only played music and made small talk in the chatroom...NOT. Anyway, this time when I was confronted with the unembellished facts of what he was doing I wanted revenge. He played me one to mant times. With the help of a friend with an N brother, I have done this. Without her, I would have confronted him, giving him ammunition to manipulate me and god forbid how that would ha?e played out. She guided me thru this mine field and insisted on NO CONTACT the wisest move ever! She also insisted I not give him any info which he would have used against me. The big buildup before he got the sendoff. This part was my idea and the revenge aspect was actually secondary to my need to Know he was lying to me and had every intention to continue doing so. I needed to be certain what I was dealing with. Also, I did not actually learn he was a N until after I had left. My friend deserves all the credit for helping me to accomplish the Right exit strategy. Alone, my own emotions would have dictated a different ending and far less successful I believe.