Is he a narcissist ?.

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#1 Jan 8 - 2PM
totally confused
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Is he a narcissist ?.

Dear friends, I feel very confused and need advice.
I have been married for 13 years with a man that has OCD and depressions. It has been very hard for me, particularly because I have felt very lonely, stripped of emotional support and have been the main bread winner and supporter of a family with 3 children.

Because of this situation, I was feeling really down this summer when I rencountered an old school friend. He started sending me emails, which started becoming more and more romantic, and would pursue me day and night telling me the most marvellous things. I was so vulnerable and so emotionally starved, that i fell for him ...He even pressured me to leave my husband 1 month later !!!. I was feeling really guilty about the situation, but it seemed like he had total control over me. He told me my husband didnt deserve me and that he was just loving me like an object. He would treat me differently and love me like a person.

Well, the fact is that once I fell for him, his attitude strated to change. Obviously no more romantic emails. The afternoons we used to see eachother, Fridays, were suddenly devoted to his son, even if I was feeling miserable and I needed to speak to him (and even if he was going to see his son on saturday and even sunday as well !). He would criticize my religious beliefs all the time and make me see videos of people ridiculizing christians. Even if i told him I didnt mind him being an atheist but that he should respect me, he just responded God did not exist and christians were stupid.

He also used to brag about his sexual conquests and spoke about the great "animal sex" he had with other women telling me once that I was a "lousy lay", even though he latter told me it was just a joke. I later saw he had playboy magazines and pictures of nude women on his desktop ...

However what most made me suffer was he sometimes didnt seem to care about my feelings. I would tell him I felt really hurt by something he said or did and he would either just get defensive or he would simply ignore it or make a joke about it ("dont be a drama queen"). If I had to go to the doctor he didnt even bother asking me if I was o.k. just "you arent pregnant are ypu ?" (he was always telling me, why did you have to have 3 children ?).

In the middle of the realtionship, I told him I wanted to stop seeing him becuase I was having an emotional breakdown. During the two weeks we were apart, he didnt even ask me how I was and when we got back together he just said "I missed You !!!" (didnt bother asking how I felt).

However everything was so confusing, beacuase he kept on sending me messages and telling me he loved me, and that I was his soulmate, beautiful and wanted me to move in with him- He continually asked me to marry him !!!!. I thin k he somehow suffered when we were more distant and I kind of feel sorry for him. I have stopped seeing him but he says he misses me and wants to get back together. Its weird but i also miss him and I dont want him to suffer (am I sick or am I a codependent ?).

I feel really bad and depressed. I had never before cheated on my husband. Im confused after so many months of anguish and confusion. I feel like I have been in an emotional roaller coaster. Looking for answers, I came up with your message board and I felt really relieved. Please help me giving me your advice.

Thanks !.

Jan 10 - 10AM
totally confused
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I would really like to thank

I would really like to thank you all for you advice, wisdom and opening your hearts to me. Even though Im still hurting, I think I am starting to see things a little bit more clearly. The problem is that his spell and the hormones are still there !!!. In any case, as some of you wisely said, even if he weren´t diagnosed as a N, who really cares ... he just made me suffer and I dont think thats true love. The bottom line, as Patsy said, is that : "Loving partners don't tell you your crappy in bed -- then say they were joking. Loving partners don't ridicule your faith. Loving partners don't jerk you around when they know you're hurting already". You are all much more loving and empathetic than he was. Its great feeling UNDERSTOOD and cared for!!. Love to all and thanks again.
Jan 10 - 10PM (Reply to #12)
Barbara (not verified)
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totally confused

The problem is that his spell and the hormones are still there !!! PTSD/ trauma counselor - ASAP deprogramming takes a long long time... hang in there ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Jan 8 - 9PM
baddream
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Oh yes, he most definitely IS

Your story sounds almost exactly like mine. Please do yourself a favor and leave now, and do not look back. I met mine under the same circumstances-- a bad marriage. N seemed like the answer to everything. We had the perfect romance, "the honeymoon period". Once reality set in, things changed--just like you described. Yours does sound like a narcissist, exhibits all of the traits. You were targeted because he saw your vulnerability and he saw how unhappy you were in your marriage. We are easy targets for them. He is pushing all your buttons. You are on the emotional roller coaster and he is controlling your ride. Your emotional reactions are his supply, his food. You must stop this right away and go no contact. I know it is hard to absorb, but take the advice of all the people who have already experienced this. I wish I had found a site like this 8 years ago. You have-- now you know what you must do.
Jan 8 - 6PM
Carolyn
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You have some key words that

You have some key words that describe the emotional roller coaster of a narcissist. they do a 'bait and switch' which means the big love game then nothing. You felt CONFUSED this is a big key word, you professed vulnerability and he offered a realtionship and then pulled back. You are just being manipulated with the goal to control you. He seductively offered you something you were very hungry for and then 'took the meal off the table'. He does this to every woman he gets involved with. It doesn't seem fair that you had this happen. You are smart to get away and keeping the golden NO CONTACT rule will help a lot. Here is a meditation that refers to inner peace it might help. I may feel caught up in a whirlwind either emotionally or physically as circumstances around me seem to be a painful blur of confusion. As I turn within I ask to be strengthened and to retain my sense of well being. I am aware that my core being is peaceful and I am completely relaxed and at ease. The affirmation that goes with this is: I am calm and serene in all circumstances. Your day is coming. You have done the right thing for a long time, you side stepped a little looking for independence, and now you have some thinking to do about what is good for you. You are a mother, a wife, a breadwinner, a church person and when does it become fun. Life wasn't meant to be all work and no play. What do you want?
Jan 8 - 6PM
Ellen
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Oh no

Hi, All i can say is Oh my God if you only knew where you are heading if you carry on with this. I wouldn't want it for you. Just take my word for it and get out and stay away or you may as well jump off a cliff. That's the only thing i can say to this as i now see the signs.
Jan 8 - 5PM
4joys4
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Has the earmarks for an N.

Has the earmarks for an N. You have obviously been affected by him. Even though he was abusive, you miss him and feel sorry for him. You have common reactions like the rest of us. So, I vote yes. Keep reading here and learn all you can about these types of relationships. There's lots of supportive people here.
Jan 8 - 5PM
Patsy
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Totally Confused

I'm sorry you're feeling so hurt and confused. I don't know if the guy's an N or not, but he sure sounds like one. I never watch Oprah -- but I did today and it was about women completely bamboozled by the men in their life. And Oprah kept going back to something Maya Angelo (sp?) had told her years ago. "The first time he shows you who he is... believe it." This guy sounds like he's shown you who he truely is. Loving partners don't tell you your crappy in bed -- then say they were joking. Loving partners don't ridicule your faith. Loving partners don't jerk you around when they know you're hurting already. Do they? Please don't feel sorry for him. From what I've read, pity is a standard tool. My husband played the poor me tune like a world class musician. Him telling you your husband only "loves you like an object" also sounds like it could be projection. Another tool of the trade. Him not seeming to care at all about YOUR health is another huge red flag. It really doesn't matter what he is, he doesn't sound good for you. And at fifty-three, all I can tell you is that I have never seen anyone jump from an unhappy marriage right into another relationship... who did anything other than jump from the frying pan into the flames. It's like these guys can smell blood in the water -- get high on the scent of vulnerability. Everyone on this board understands the roller coaster of emotions and knows how bad you're hurting. You are not alone. Most of us need therapy to get out from under their nasty spell and I hope you can get therapy for yourself soon. Huge kudos to you for taking care of three children and a husband on your own. You're obviously a very strong woman. Love, Patsy P.S. Answered the phone three times while writing this so I apologize if I've repeated something others have said.
Jan 8 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
itreallyisabouthim
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He does sound like an N

Hi and welcome. I'm sorry you had to go down that path and hope you are able to get back to a healthy place. Disregarding someone's feelings and not even being in tune with the fact that other people HAVE feelings, giant red flags. Giving great lip service and proceeding to say hurtful and unsupportive things, also very N-like. Whatever he is, he's trouble. P.S. for Patsy "The first time he shows you who he is... believe it" What great words. I'm going to share that with my daughters as well as "If you want a wonderful life, marry someone who adores you".
Jan 9 - 8AM (Reply to #6)
ForeverLearning
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Make Sure They REALLY Adore You

I love all the comments here, that is why I love this website, people really care and give the very best advice they have to give. It takes a lifetime to learn some of this stuff, and when you share this wonderful advice with others, you are giving us some shortcuts to happiness and peace on our journey in life. Kinda like we get to read a "cliffnotes" along with the actual novel! But anyways - one thought I had on this advice: "If you want a wonderful life, marry someone who adores you". Good stuff - just make sure they really legitimately adore you! Not just the "temporary" adoring you, that comes during the honeymoon period...... know what I mean? So how do you make sure they really adore you? Well, that takes time to reveal itself of course! So, you must give someone time to reveal who they really are. And all the while, you have to be cautious about loving them too much that you can't let go if you discover they are a major ASSHOLE! So in other words, you have to guard your heart as best you can, as you discover and learn about ANYONE in your life, but especially, a new love. And of course it doesn't hurt if you can talk openly to them too! Honest, positive (not hateful/ rage filled) communication is the foundation to a relationship that will work in the long run. Because when you are old and gray - and sitting in a rocking chair next to them, the sex might be gone, but the stories and laughter can remain - if you can talk to them easily. Thanks again all for the honest and loving insight that everyone shares freely here. I appreciate it.
Jan 8 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
Patsy
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itreallyisabouthim

I sure wish I heard and learned to live by those words years ago. lol They really sum it up quite simply. I think I'll pass both on to my daughter too.
Jan 8 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
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is he...

we can't diagnose. you would know best. whatever he is he's a LOSER and you need to get away and stay away. Have you read LISA's book? our Blog? Cruised around the WHOLE message board for articles that interest you? You will have to make up your own mind and act accordingly. ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Jan 9 - 8AM (Reply to #5)
agnesmurphy17
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Barbara's right

Who cares whether he's a narcissist, or not? The guy is a JERK. And, he does not make you happy because you are here reading this site & writing in. And, the disappointment of this affair is magnified because you are in an unhappy marriage. Looking for salvation & were preyed upon by a jerk looking to exploit your vulnerability. I would say that the time has come for you to make your life totally about you & your three children.