How the N is thinking about U and how to resent him less...

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#1 Dec 27 - 6PM
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How the N is thinking about U and how to resent him less...

I posted a reply to a question on this forum. They were moved by my response and they told me I should post it. So, I decided to. Here it is...Why does a N not appreciate his partner when the partner gave her all and plus some. My explanation from my research is...The N did know that his partner was a perfect catch for his needs to be filled. At least that is how he felt when he first met you. The reason he was attracted to you is exactly why you were with the N's in your life and I was with mine. We were great or perfect in their eyes. We were extensions to the N's false self of perfection. They end up resenting you, for the very traits that attracted them to you. They like your self sacrificial ways that served them well, but they resent you for wanting to be closer and more giving to them. They also resent that they are so dependent on you for their false ego needs. Their true self doesn't feel worthy. Their false self is grandiose. Their true self is shame based with deep self loathing. How could you love a person like me? You must be an inferior being to put up with me, but I depend on you for NS. Therefore, I resent the dependency I have on you. It is your fault that I can and do depend on you. I depended on my mother who wasn't able to love me. You don't love me either, and I don't love you, but I need you for NS. I need my NS partner, but I hate them. I resent you now for having the qualities that I don't possess and never will. So, I have to resent my source "you" too for my dependency needs. That is what goes on in the N's head...When you pull back, and take care of yourself with less co-dependency, you will be able to make some changes and add more boundaries. Without more boundaries in place we become willing prey to the preditor. So, be less giving and pleasing (co-dependent) So, you lessen the blow or chance that PD's will mistreat or dispose of you anymore. You give less to them...you lose less. Then, you resent less because you didn't sacrifice yourself too much. Then, you give the power back to yourself where it belonged in the first place instead of handing it over to the N. This is how I am going to handle all of my relationships from now on even with non narcs because it is a healthier way for me to live...simply put...

Dec 29 - 3AM
freaked
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WOW... seriously...Virginia..

WOW... seriously...Virginia...do have gossamer wings???? plz chk. WHOLE morning here I am reeling with Resentment against the horrid nh... and now i see yur post... what's this abt synchronicity?! Dunno if my resentment can reduce...at least i wil now try to protect my soul and mind. btw, my heart is fine...i don't have any emotionals left for this eff'd up husband here..
Dec 29 - 11AM (Reply to #12)
virginia (not verified)
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Good Morning Freaked

Thank you for your response..We have to be real and experience and process all our emotions even resentment. But, knowledge and growth = power to over come and lessen our resentment in time...Be gentle with yourself as you process all emotions. Accept all of your ugly feelings too, or you will never heal at your core..But, give yourself the power back by giving to yourself what others never seem to be able to, or willing to give to you. That is really the only way we can really respect ourselves and keep some happiness to move forward. We can only control our thoughts and actions, even though we would like to bang our N's over the head with a baseball bat (not literally) and put some sence into them. So, if we can control ourselves, and in a way control the N's nonsence, we must not keep pleasing people who will never be pleased. They never try to please us do they?! A controller only wins, when we hand over our self control/power to him. It is best to live a separate life to hang on to yourself without broadcasting your thoughts or desires to him. You don't want to lie, but you don't want to lose yourself totally. If you are living with an N, you walk on a balance beam always trying to not fall off. Don't always enable him to mistreat you, but don't always respond when he tries to create a conflict with you. Your truth is your truth. Keep that to yourself so you don't enmesh so much with him. You want to keep just enough autonomy for your sanity, but not so much autonomy that he feels threatened and creates more trouble for you. Now, you can keep some autonomy but the trick is, you don't want to tell him that, that is what you are doing or thinking. Don't sabotauge yourself another words by broadcasting it. If your N says for example, "Isn't that a great movie?" and you didn't like the movie in your "reality" Hang on to your reality but you could change the subject by distracting him, or not respond, or just say, "Boy, I wonder why there weren't more people in the theater tonight?" Don't go along with the N all of the time and resenting him that you didn't have a say so of your own. You had a say so. You held onto your reality and autonomy, without him having an outburst causing you more pain..You get the idea...This wont work 24/7 because N's drive us crazy too often, but to lessen some of his blows to us, we may need to implement this strategy when we can..
Dec 27 - 7PM
ReclaimingPower
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Virginia...

Awesome!
Dec 27 - 7PM
juliamarie
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Great Commentary

You are exactly right. The only way to deal with these people in your life (the ones that don't go away) is to set boundaries and care about yourself more. Once you do this with just about everyone in your life, you notice major changes. N's have a way of making you a co-dependent person you don't even recognize. I've had to set major boundaries with my family. My father is an alcoholic, and my mom is an enabler. I decided to spend Thanksgiving away from that craziness....instead of trying to make everyone else happy...and it was one of my favorite Thanksgivings yet. I also set boundaries with my boss. When he started treating me like a small child that needed micromanaging, I put my foot down. I told him he may need someone else for the job that likes being managed in that way. Guess what? He doesn't do it anymore. I feel more like myself than ever. I don't try to please or expect anyone else to make me happy. I'm done with people that don't honor me. I have to thank the N for this lesson. Now I just have to figure out how to balance being a bit of a bitch :)
Dec 27 - 7PM (Reply to #9)
virginia (not verified)
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Well said Juliamarie...

Well said!! Your last sentence is exactly where I am too..That is the trick in moving on in a positive healthy way...Good Luck to you too...
Dec 27 - 6PM
Hunter
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Yep, that about says it

Yep, that about says it all.. Freaks.. Hunter
Dec 27 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
virginia (not verified)
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Hunter...Thanks for confirming...

Your one tough person..I have to keep up with you :)I am putting all the pieces of the puzzle together now...I am so close to moving forward with more strength. I spent 2 wks. as a hermit on the computer spending 8 - 10 hrs. a day researching many resources out on N's and spending time on here to stay strong...still NC so far...I do look up your threads too..We might as well play a game on here while we are searching for strength. The game will be, who can be the strongest and wisest in our knowledge. That keeps our motivation going to keep up our good work and get an A+ on our test of "life" with or without narcs in our lives..We are becoming our best selves now...Thanks, V
Dec 27 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
Hunter
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Understanding it is key..

Understanding it is key.. Next you must get the Heart and the head lined up.. That's the hard part.. These freaks never go away..I'm all pissed off about Narc # 1 ( I posted earlier ) I'd love to engage but I'm not going to.. Ohhhh and it's killing me..keep your fingers crossed for me. Hunter
Dec 27 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
ReclaimingPower
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The amazing Hunter is one of

The amazing Hunter is one of us. :) Your posts are inspiring and your strength admirable. But your admission of wanting to engage the Narc 1 and struggle not to perhaps the most empowering thing to see!!!! We're with you, with every ounce of our strength we're using to remain NC with our own freaks. :)))
Dec 27 - 7PM (Reply to #6)
Hunter
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How I get myself involved in

How I get myself involved in this shit is beyond me..not 1 Narc but 2.. FUCK.. Well.. I now know better so Deleted it .. This narc is like one of those 100 yr old Vampires.. He's Good.. But I'm better..I also figured out his meaning of his cryptic message... His message translated to hear me loud and clear.. I won't help you.. Works for me.. My silence pissed him off.. Two years since his last ST after I helped him .. bye bye.. 20 years of his BS.. They never go away.. Hunter
Dec 27 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
ReclaimingPower
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:)

I was at the gym yesterday on the bike; wore a college t-shirt, reading glasses and was finishing up Sheridan's book. I swear those weren't muscle flexing in front of me; I think it was fear. Run narcs run! :) They never go away....and they are everywhere. At least I'll have plenty of opportunities to practice my boundaries. :) Hope you're able to shake off Narc 1's residual grime quickly. Blech!
Dec 27 - 6PM (Reply to #4)
virginia (not verified)
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I will keep my fingers and toes crossed for you :)

It is so comforting to know, that I am not alone in this whole deal. We are learning so much here, that I hope we don't become puffed up like the N's...just kidding. No, we are getting empowered. It isn't good enough for us to crawl into a ball and give up. We are survivors now and then we will be thrivers! We were victimized, but now will become victorious around the corner...can't wait! Keep up the good work friend...