How to respond to Narc after you figure it out?

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#1 Sep 3 - 4PM
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How to respond to Narc after you figure it out?

About a week after Narcboy started giving me the could shoulder is when I learned about NPD and that he probably has it. That was 5 weeks ago.

We haven't spoken since - but a few weeks ago he did leave me a voicemail saying that he'd call me either later that night or the next morning. By the time I got the message, he had already failed to call me like he said he would. But I know he'd try to flip it around on my and make it MY fault for not calling HIM back. WTH??

My best guess is that really he's just a big coward.

I know its likely that we will HAVE to speak again at some point, we do have some business related issues to wrap up. Even if I remain NC, our paths will be crossing sooner or later since we're in the same industry. I want to be mentally ready even if I don't know when that day will come. It could be tomorrow, it could be a few months from now.

At this point, part of me does want him to call me, but I know I'm not ready to hear from him at the same time. Since we haven't spoken since before I figured out what he is, the thought of talking to him makes me nauseous.

I'd love to be able to tell him off - That my biggest mistake was expecting too much from him - you know, things like honesty, loyalty, respect... things that occur naturally in "normal" friendships. And that he couldn't even be "bothered" to follow through with what he said he'd do in his message. But I know that would be a huge Narc injury - he likes to think that he's loyal and respectful etc... NOT. But I DON'T want to give him any incentive to start or worsen a smear campaign against me.

I read on another site that if you want to control your Narc,(as in, having a hope of him not smearing you) you need to play into his fear - and what do Narcs fear? Being exposed. I wouldn't actually try to expose him, but I've thought about casually dropping into the conversation something seemingly innocent, like, "You know, I know you better than you think I do...." (which is TRUE!) And he's smart enough to know what I mean... and then just let his little paranoid mind run with that.

Would a better approach be to just pretend I don't know what I know? I feel like now that I know that it's all a game to him, that I have to play a game too - and that feels so dishonest to me. (Even though he doesn't deserve honesty, that doesn't mean I should stoop to his level.)

Sep 3 - 9PM
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What I wouldn't do

to just never have met this man. My experience with being aware of his incredible ugliness, and still have to deal with him almost daily, is to be very focused and deliberate when I'm around him. Don't open yourself up to any possibility of him making any personal comments. Make it brief & superficial. They know what they did to you. They don't need you to remind them. You were both there when it took place, so imo, they also realize that you are aware, without a word said about it.
Sep 3 - 5PM
Jelickuk
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For me all games have to

For me all games have to stop. I have played so many games since he left me for ow, all designed to try and get his attention or a reaction. Now at last I want neither.nso no more pretending. My whole life with him was a lie. I don't want to add more dishonesty. Just no contact and no comment
Sep 3 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
WakingUP (not verified)
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If I were to choose to play

If I were to choose to play games, it would be with the goal of "managing" the N. Not to get his attention or a reaction. I anticipate that I'll have to have contact at some point, and just trying to get myself mentally ready for it.
Sep 3 - 5PM
Caligirl
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letting him know you know what he is

would probably cause him to lash back. I started letting my exN know I was onto him, and he started blaming me, projecting, turned the tables, and slandered me to his family (though not sure how much there, his kids for sure). I think he was afraid I'd say something first. Be glad he is not calling you, but in case he does, N's see positive and negative attention as supply. So, if you stroke his ego, yes, he'll play nice. If you call him out or threaten him, he'll get ugly, and possible d&d. According to Sam Vaknin, if you mirror him, he'll go away. Of course, stroking his ego, he'll probably stick around awhile longer. Your best bet is N/C. N/C is no supply. They'll give up and go elsewhere.
Sep 3 - 5PM
Journey
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In my opinion your best

In my opinion your best approach is to do absolutely nothing in response. EVER. No contact. Refuse to engage. Your ex gave you the cold shoulder and you haven't spoken in 5 weeks... why do you have to have any kind of approach with him at all? The time is now for you to STOP approaching him, stop answering to him and stop trying to reach him. You don't have to play any games, you can just say you've had enough (if he reaches out) and if he asks why, just say because that is what you feel and need and that is ALL he needs to know. Why you feel this way is NONE of his business and you owe him NO explanation. HE was the one to withdraw from the relationship, so he can be the one to stupidly wonder why you would have any reaction other than to withdraw yourself - no explanation necessary!! Remove the doubts from your head about him being a narc. Keep reading and learning about the traits of the disordered. Whatever his psycho-evaluation is, you are better staying away from him now and healing. He is toxic to you regardless and will not bring your life happiness!

Journey on...

Sep 3 - 4PM
FarmGirl
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One thing I am doing is

One thing I am doing is making sure to stroke his ego regularly so he stays calm right now.
Sep 3 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
Okay1150
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I hear you on that

I am only about two weeks away from having the divorce final and moving out. People ask why I am being "so nice". Because if I don't enrage him, it's easier. I ignore the lies, the slip of the tongue when he still calls me "honey". If I buck him, he will make my life more miserable than it already is. Freedom is so close I can almost taste it...
Sep 3 - 7PM (Reply to #6)
FarmGirl
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Keep your eye on the prize,

Keep your eye on the prize, your head low and your tongue quiet! It's the motto for those tortured moments before you can get away from the N.
Sep 3 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
WakingUP (not verified)
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Stroking his ego would come

Stroking his ego would come under the heading of "pretending I don't know what I know." I can see why it would be a good idea.
Sep 3 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
FarmGirl
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I'm really bad at keeping it

I'm really bad at keeping it up for long now though. I am DONE! All I am doing now is for survival.
Sep 3 - 4PM
FarmGirl
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When you find out, let me

When you find out, let me know! Last night my N told a whopper of a lie and I called him on it and he just kept lying. Usually I get mad (red head ;)) or ignore him...last night I burst out laughing. Oops. I think he knows I am on to him...