Im in panic mode if you have read my posts, please tell me my husband is textbook narc

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#1 Oct 21 - 6AM
jaycee
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Im in panic mode if you have read my posts, please tell me my husband is textbook narc

Today I woke up, having this fear that maybe my hN is not really a narc. weird, I know his lies are paramount, i know he only feels bad when it suits him, etc...but Im having a panic attack today, feeling like maybe hes not a narc, not a psychopath, maybe he just didnt love me and has been searching for the one, and i just wasnt her. Im so confused today, i have this overwhelming anxiety and panic, please tell me from what i have expressed here on the the forum, there is no doubt he is a psychopath and a textbook narc. I just need to hear it today.....please talk to me.........i need you guys to tell me the truth, please, im hysterical today, i dont want it to be because i wasnt the one.......please tell me what you think.......jaycee

Oct 22 - 10AM
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thanks for all the replies

thanks, i love to read all the replies, and to answer the question, if the freak of the week came here and said i will not and cannot ever change, but take me back, i would laugh in his face. no i would not take him back, nor do i want him back, i just want him to move on, or even better still, take her and move as far from here as possible, i could even accept that, but the two of them prancing around town together, her with her arrogant, i won attitude and him pretending to be so happy with his whore, no, i cannot take that.......i dont want him back, i just want him out of here or for him to leave her whore ass and move on to something else......Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 22 - 11AM (Reply to #59)
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Jaycee its more than taking

Jaycee its more than taking him back. Its about getting him and the OW out of your head so you can move on. If your waiting for them to break up before you do this your wasting precious time that could be spent on finding the jaycee that has put her self on this back burner for 24 years. No one can predict how long this reltionship will continue. Not us and Not you unfortunately hon. So the only way to feel better and stop these anxitey attacks is to let this obsession with them go. Your hurting and you want this to stop right? You first must want to get better before anything can be done to help you. And this requires the desire to look at yourself and focus on you. The situation with him and the ow you can not control no matter how hard you try. he will let you down again as he has proven with his track record. Dont wait for him to change it is not going to happen. its just not. I say this out of concern because we want this pain to end for you but we need for you to really focus on what is important today. That is you. What have you done for yourself today? only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Oct 22 - 12PM (Reply to #60)
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betty

betty I understand completely what you are saying, but when we spoke, you told me you just know their relationship wil not last, i hope you still believe that. no one can say for how long, yes you are right, but from what i had told you, you were convinced it would not last. i know i need to stop obsessing over it, im the only one whos hurting over it, but yet, i was truthful to you when i said, as long as hes not with her, i will be at peace, and i really mean that. i can accept the next one and the next one, etc but not her. im trying to focus on other things, but the weekends are so difficult for me. and its friday.........im trying to make plans to visit with friends and get them out of my mind, i will try to focus on that for the weekend and hopefully not feel such anxiety over wht they are doing. although, i hate the they, as it is.......Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 22 - 6AM
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today, im still in panic mode, not as bad, but i am

i wish i could stop this panic, i know its because he plays such headgames about his relationship with her, he convinced me he was out of there, looking for his own place, just waiting to get the money, but if that were true, he wouldnt be playing family with her again. he changes his mind like the weather, its sick, but i know him, hes happy one day miserable the next the next hour hes hateful, etc.....hes just a fk up pos. he needs more help than all the narcs and psychos of the world, but he doesnt even know hes nuts.....he thinks everyone else is........please ask God to answer my prayers, pls........Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 22 - 7AM (Reply to #57)
michele115 (not verified)
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Jaycee

I am not the most religious but I believe in God. When God is working in our lives, we do have to give him time. You mentioned God, so I know you believe. In knowing that, your faith rests on his will and in his time. That being said, you have to know that you are a child of God and that he loves you and he will never abandon you. Your faith is what gets you through some of the things that we feel powerless over. Right now, because of the overwhelming emotions, you cannot see what God is doing in your life. First, he brought you to this board. I know sometimes you want to kick us cause we say things that you might not want to hear or things that are still very very hard to wrap your head around, but Lisa wrote about cognitive dissonance and that kind of explains where you are at...you are not crazy. There are still many good things happening in your life. You have shelter, you have food, you have a lot of basics some people don't have. You may want better, we all do, but if you look at what others don't have, sometimes our problems seem trivial. Deuteronomy 20:3-4 "He will say to them, Listen to me, all you men of Israel! Do not be afraid as you go out to fight your enemies today! Do not lose heart or panic or tremble before them for the Lord your God is going with you! He will fight for you against your enemies, and he will give you victory. Get yourself into Proverbs this morning...lots of wisdom and peace there Also Job Luke 10:19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. Again Jaycee, I am not the best read in the world, but you need comfort...stick your nose in the Book, pray and stay close to the board. You need centering. I'm praying for you.
Oct 21 - 9PM
jaycee
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thanks for all the replies

im mentally and physically exhausted right now, ill post more tomorrow but thank you all, i hope the panic subsides soon...........xoxo Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 21 - 6PM
blueeyes
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Jaycee

This happens to me too. It's part of the symptoms of the abuse we endured. Sadly, it is. :(
Oct 21 - 2PM
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Jaycee

I really see a LOT of anxiety and panic and fear. This is a separate thing . . . living for 24 years with this HORRIBLE cheating asshole has had an effect on you. It is insidious, it crept up on you without you being aware. Like the frog in boiling water. You SHOULD be able to know what you know, and not need reminders of the obvious. But when the anxiety and panic rise up, all rational thought about "knowing what you know" goes out the window. I wonder if you have an anxiety disorder? God knows half of us do. I'm on antidepressants myself, and have been since about a year out of the relationship. My anxiety and depression were through the roof, and they were LEGITIMATE. Who wouldn't be a complete mess? I was only in for seven years, too. It overwhelms me to think of 24 :( Have you considered going to a doc and trying an antidepressant? I can't help but think if you got help for the terrible and UNDERSTANDABLE anxiety, that you would be able to get a leg up on this whole thing :)
Oct 21 - 2PM
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there are still days that i

there are still days that i wonder if he is a narc or not but they are getting few and far between , i refure back to my little book where i wrote all the mind bending things he did or said and i snap right out of it .. Contradiction is the easyest way to spot a narc .. now .. youre narc says one day "why dont you kill youre self " and the next day he says "you are the love of my life my darling wife " ... WTF .. no really WTF ..here we have two very opposing thoughts with youre narc this is enough to know he is a disordered freak .. read the post on here about projection and the circle and square anology its a cracking post , inside you can be normal , inside he can not be normal its as simple as that . I wish i could wave a magic wand and make you see what i do ... i only see what i do because i have been NO CONTACT for 8 months , youre questions where my questions a year ago befor i went nc (it took me a long time to go nc ) Going nc is scary .. its like giving up on hope , denile keeps us locked in to the crazy and when you go nc its so painful because you have to let the hope go .Personaly i didnt let the hope really go till well into nc but i knew i had no other choise , i was going mad , and i had faith that nc worked because everyone here told me it did , i was so desparate to make the pain end and i had tryed everything else it was the only thing left for me and guess what .. it WORKS .I want to shout it from the roof tops NO CONTACT HEALS !!!!!Trust in what the members write here , dont think about it just do it . change youre number, get a lawyer , only comunicate through the lawyer . Have faith ...I know you can do it because i know you are a tough cookie .. xxx
Oct 21 - 1PM
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Jaycee

Jaycee, I get so worried when I read your posts and you seem so far over the edge. It is unhealthy for you to remain in this state. Are you seeing a therapist? are you on any sort of meds (anti-depressents, anti-anxiety...). If you are doing neither of these I would highly recommend you start. An anti-anxiety medicine takes the edge off when you get like this. You only have to take them when you need it. Also, a therapist will be able to work through these issues with you and give you exercises (mental) that help you shift your thoughts. You are obsessing and it is not healthy. This guy is a scum bag. He is not going to change, he proves to you every day that he can't change. Ignore him, don't engage. If you have to communicate with him stick to email and keep it professional. Any time he tries to bring up something personal tell him that is not open for discussion and change the subject. You need to thank God this ass didn't give you Aids or any other diseases. He is a loser and you deserve much better. There are a ton of good people out there!
Oct 21 - 12PM
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the panic is still here

I just have this sinking feeling inside my stomach that maybe just maybe, hes not a narc and it was me, i just wasnt the one, and he has been in search of the one for years. yes, our relationship lasted longer than most because i worked so hard at it and gave him utter and absolute freedom, that is the only reason....plus i allowed him to be lazy and not make any effort towards our marriage, but maybe what he needed was someone like her, who demands and controls, and that maybe is what he was looking for from day one. maybe hes found the one, yes, i know it makes no sense he cheats on her, tells me he doesnt love her, shes a bitch, but who knows why he says those things, maybe in reality, he is afraid to loose her, so he is sabotaging it from the get go, what i cant understand is why he continues to tell me how much he loves me, misses me and wishes i never threw him out. yet, in the same breath he says hes getting his own place because he wants to be on his own. yeah, right, i think he doesnt want her to ever find out he would prefer his home to her, yet, he still wants her, i know im babbling not making sense, but my mind is a mess, ill be back on tonight, please tell me how to get rid of this awful panic......and if you think hes narc or im not the one.........Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 21 - 5PM (Reply to #50)
michele115 (not verified)
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Jaycee

I am going to try my best to be gentle here because I don't want to lose you on this board again. Okay, let's look at things - none of us are perfect right? Okay. Now...you do know you and you know how you are as a person, loving, honest etc. You know what effort you put into the relationship. If YOU were not happy in a relationship and did not really want to hurt someone, would you LIE for 24 years, emotionally abuse them? You have children right? If you knew that you didn't love someone the way you should, that you felt "attracted" to other people whatever, would you at least have the insight to see the harm that you would be causing your children? I think you would. We don't have to love people forever but morals and values dictate honesty, loyalty and doing our best not to trespass against others. Do you see any evidence in 24 years that the NARC displayed ANY value based behaviors towards you? He is not a nice person to say the least, and you don't exploit others for selfish gain. That is the bottom line. It is not you, it's him. You tried your best, you made some mistakes in judgement by tolerating his crappy behavior - that is not a crime. You are a beautiful person with value, a loving person and you have to start loving yourself and get away from seeking "validation" from him. That validation you are seeking is being manifested in the form of you wanting to belive he will at least come to his senses and acknoledge what a dip shit he is. On some level it seems you are willing to do this by even casting blame on yourself. You are not to blame. He is a Narc...perhaps a sex addict and addicts are always addicts. Jaycee, try your best to calm down. I shared with you just yesterday I wanted to go to the psych ward. I really did, I was not just talking crap. I got THAT wound up. No sleep, legal notice etc. What a difference a day makes. Not doing cartwheels, but don't have that desperate panic feeling. What I noticed was I was getting lost and neglecting the things that needed doing. I lost control. You can't lose control. You do have control. The control lies in doing things you can do that you have control over. You have children that have some serious problems. That in and of itself is a monumental task, even if you weren't as messed up as you are emotionally right now...but, I noticed that when my back was against the wall, I had to drag myself into action or be rendered HOMELESS...interesting how you can get your shit together when your back is against the wall. I took control of that situation and made a list of things I need to do to better my situation. Foodstamps, HEAP, Child Health Insurance etc. AND, I've actively started to take baby steps to get these overwhelming tasks under control. In doing that, my focus is elsewhere, not with the Narc and those things gave me HOPE that my situation will slowly improve. You need to do these things for you too. See your lawyer, find out what you can get money wise...take control baby steps. Get your girl into REHAB, Get your Son into AA or draw the line and let them know you will not enable them they will have to start supporting the home some. YOu cannot take the world on your shoulders. Everyone has to do their part. Be blessed Jaycee...I don't have all the answers, but maybe make a list of things that need addressing and chip away at it little by little. Make the tasks manageable though so you don't get overwhelmed and put the blankets over your head. Love you...
Oct 21 - 2PM (Reply to #33)
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jaycee

HE TELLS you, he loves you and misses you. - BS HE TELLS you, he wants to have his own place and leaving her.- BS He is already cheating on her, as he did to you.. thats the only thing you found out by yourself. So its true. And yet he stays with her. I am telling you what is going on here, he is not happy with you, he is not happy with her, and he will not be happy with anyone. He keeps you hooked as a backburner, he keeps her hooked as a backburner, he is a total selfish twisted psycho. He is a psycho, I dont know how to say it in another way to make you understand, he is a psycho, a liar. He lies to you, he lies to her. He will not be happy with anyone, not with you, not with her, with no one! I hope you find some peace, please try some meditation!
Oct 21 - 2PM (Reply to #34)
ShaynasMommy
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And so the phuck what

"if" she was hypothetically THE ONE. If you find someone that fantastic, do you effin CHEAT on them!?!?!? NO, dammit you don't, not unless YOU are the one who is broken. That's what he is, broken and NOT fixable! If He walked into your house today and told you, whithout a doubt that you are the ONE, but unfortunately he is broken and unfixable and you just have to put up with it, what would you say to that?
Oct 22 - 6AM (Reply to #35)
jaycee
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and so the phuck what

shaynasmommy, so odd you say that, when he came back years ago, after our first split, he said it was all him, blah blah blah, he has problems, please accept me back, i wont do it again, and he did it again, and again, so on and so forth etc....but guess what i took him back, biggest mistake of my life, i could be twelve years healed right now, instead this time is hundred times worse. the pain is more overwhelming and the anxiety is out of control.........so stupid i was, to think he would behave, just because he said he had problems......what was i thinking........he lies so much its disgusting, he doesnt even know what truth is..and i still let him fk with my mind, not a very smart move on my part.........im still dying inside, i just want him to move on from her and do his thing elsewhere, and then i can find peace, that will be the truth.........peace knowing at least he didnt give her the illusion for twenty four years, i just want him to up and leave her whore ass and be with one of his others, or someone new........sad, but true thats all i want.........Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #49)
ShaynasMommy
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"shaynasmommy, so odd you

"shaynasmommy, so odd you say that, when he came back years ago, after our first split, he said it was all him, blah blah blah, he has problems, please accept me back, i wont do it again, and he did it again, and again, so on..." Yep, except NOW you know the ultimate truth about him, that he's a bastard Narc, who CANNOT change, let alone wants to. Now, like I said, if he came to your door with the whole truth, that he "loves" you but cannot and will not change, and you just have to accept that and put up with the cheating.....I ask again, what whould you say? If it were me I would say, "hold still while I strap this littlw white jacket on you, youre going someplace nice where you will meet some interesting friends, honey."
Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #43)
ShaynasMommy
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Jaycee

I guess at this point I don't have any wisdom to impart on how to make you feel better about this OW, but I will tell you that you have my utmost sympathy because I felt exactly how you did over her. I didn't want him back, because I knew he was fucked up at that point, but I was sooooo pissed off that she had him. Here we had this sweet looking, long suffering poor little gal, born again christian church going type.....who just so happened to be not only fucking around on her own husband, but trying to steal someone else's man, too. Its not like she didn't have a clue about me. We even met, and at the same time I am sure she was plotting with him to get rid of me. It totally threw me off guard and made me really wary of other women, too. I mean, I don't care what kind of stories a man will tell you about how awful his wife/GF is. If you are inclined to believe them (and we know alot of it is BS anyways)you don't just write her off as crazy and violate her feelings and dignity that way. You wait until the relationship is over and done. Period. "Do unto others..." and all that. But. This nasty bitch turned around and left my exN in a particularly cruel way, by moving her stuff out under his nose and not bothering to mention to him that she was leaving him. Maybe she wised up to him and was nervous about what would happen to her if she confronted him, or maybe she was just being the heartless, duplicitous skank she was after all, who knows, but she didn't stick around to tolerate his shit. I think your h's OW is "smarter" than you give her credit for. This thing they have won't last, especially if you keep removing yourself from the equation. She only hung on as long as she did, because she was fighting YOU for him, for some sick, undefinable reason of hers. Once there is no drama, the "relationship" will start to get boring and stale, and probably fizzle out at some point. People like that are not loyal to the ones they are with, just to themselves. You just need to quit giving them any more of your time and energy and precious strength. I know its easier said than done because this hurts tremendously. But it has to stop soon. Much love and keep your chin up.
Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #44)
blueeyes
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ShaynasMommy

Missed you :(
Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #45)
ShaynasMommy
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blueeyes

missed you too, hun. I gotta get up to speed on what's going on since last week. Hope you are still getting out of Dodge soon. :)
Oct 22 - 11AM (Reply to #48)
blueeyes
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shanasmommy- Yes

Absolutely, hopefully on time. I posted my ridiculous story. I need to find yours.
Oct 22 - 11AM (Reply to #46)
blueeyes
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shanasmommy- Yes

Absolutely, hopefully on time. I posted my ridiculous story. I need to find yours.
Oct 22 - 12PM (Reply to #47)
ShaynasMommy
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Oh, its there somewhere

I didn't post that long ago, so its probably still there. and I wish mine could have been alot more detailed like some of the other gals here, but you know, its true that memories of abuse are just so fragmented, that when someone asks you specifically all of the shit that happened, I am hard pressed to come up with a thourough answer. But at the same time, when I read and post here, many little things come back that I had totally forgotten about. I guess thats part of the defense and healing process. I posted my story about 10 weeks ago or so, and if there are questions needing clarification I wuld be happy to answer.
Oct 22 - 7AM (Reply to #36)
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Jaycee

I am trying to understand and I know you see what he is and know what he is because you're saying it. AND I understand you are feeling tremendous pain and I feel for you - anxiety, panic all those feelings are horrible to go through and I've been there myself. BUT, what I am trying to understand is how or why do you feel that somehow his moving on from her will bring you peace. There will be others. Is it because of what she's represented, because she's the one that he left you for? If that is the case Jaycee, that's your ego that has been terribly bruised; however, if you want to get metaphysical...sometimes they say that those things we harp on most are the things that stick. If that is true, than maybe just by the energy, you are keeping them together. I've noticed that when I psychologically have released others in the past, that's when the shit hits the fan for them. I don't have an explanation or proof but maybe if you could "trick" your mind? Try to brainwash yourself that as you think about them you are "feeding" them and you want them to "Starve" so you will try not to focus on them? I don't know, I had to play some tricks with myself - in my case, I am not aware of who or if he's dating, but on some level, I've had to try to force myself...not to care? Of course I won't really know cause if I ran into him and a bitch somewhere AND YES...anyone from here on in is a bitch!...LOL, I honestly don't know how I would respond...BUT Truth is, essentially, no matter what, we do have some power over our minds. I am concerned what this amount of stress will do to your health!...do you have meds the doc gave you? If not, maybe get some to at least take the edge off. First five days or so, Jaycee, I was like you in rare form. I got Adavan from a friend and knocked my ass out for four five days...that gave my body some rest, my mind some relaxation because the more wired you get, the more intense. I swear...a day can make a difference, but you need to get yourself calmer somehow. What do you think might help get you calmer? We know breaking them up is out of our control. What can you do that you can control that you think might make it a little easier even if just for the moment. We have to take things moment by moment. Do you have friends or someone you can go out with even if it's just to the yard with some coffee or something - you need a little bit of a distraction but I also know the panic keeps you trapped ....hun I've been there I know, but you need someone near that is a good ear. Is there anyone who can come and help bring comfort or just sit with you?
Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #41)
ShaynasMommy
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MIchelle,

I knoe your question was posed for Jaycee, but I think I may have the simple answer to that question. Jaycee knows he's a bastard. She intellectually knows that they are a couple of con artists who are not engaging in anything real or long lasting. She also knows that he will never change and hasn't changed for this OW either. She is 95% clear on this. But, like myself at one point, despite all of the evidence pointing to the obvious, she still has that 5% doubt about wether or not it was all HER doing, if she couldt have done anything differently, if it was her fault that she couldn't live up to his fantastic soul mate fantasies. Matter of fact, it doesn't even sound like this creep wants any soulmate, just constantly looking for a hole to stick it in, while having someone look after him at home and make him look good on the outside. And if the OW thinks she can do as good a job as Jaycee has for the past 2 decades, then she is sorely mistaken. So, that seems to be the obsession. That somehow she is a failure and that's why he couldn't be faithful. And that somehow the new OW can make him happy enough not to stray. Its a fantasy on her part, based on her own insecurities, and I can totally relate to it. That's why I agree that some anti-anxiety meds could help her, bring her down to earth and calm her nerves. she desparately needs it right now.
Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #42)
ShaynasMommy
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Jaycee honey

NOBODY makes a man like that do what he does, except himself. The shortcomings are %100 HIS. Its NOT YOU.
Oct 22 - 9AM (Reply to #37)
jaycee
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michele

michele, thanks for the words of encouragement. but now i have another anxiety, what if you are right and all the energy i spend obsessing about them, is what is keeping them together...now i cant stop.........i hope you are wrong, i hope they are doomed from day one, since, they began their relationship in a sneaky underhanded way, and my hope is that that is why they will fail........not because of me or for me, but because no castle can be built on the ruins of another.........i pray im not stirring their relationship, i pray, they will fail, simply because they are evil......Jaycee

Jaycee

Oct 22 - 10AM (Reply to #40)
ShaynasMommy
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they are doomed

from day one, because like you said, the affair did not come from an honest, pure place (thus the term "affair"). Its not about love for them, at best its about lust and control. She's trying to control him and you, and he's trying to control you and her. (See how tangled it all is). don't let him control you any further. That includes your mind.
Oct 22 - 9AM (Reply to #39)
betty2020
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I think the point here is

I think the point here is that your energy is being mis guided by your desire to see this relationship fail and not where it should be which is on your recovery and building a positive future for yourself and your children hon. The mind is a powerful entity and can make us or break us. The expression "Life is whats happening while your busy making other plans" applies here. While your busy worrying about him and this other woman, your life is slipping away. Your getting older, your children are going on with their lives without your complete attention and focus, your career and future is at a stall.... And he is out tip toeing through the tulips with some freak. Your letting it all slip away and for what? Some one that obviously has no respect for you. If he did he would have never done any of those horrible things he did. The definition of "Love" is simple. Respect. If that is not there then Love is not there. Does he love you Jaycee? Or are you hanging on to the dream of the day he rides back in on his white horse to rescue. How long will you wait? Given his track record do you think this return will produce a different result? Did it ever in the past? He has you captive. The whore has you captive. How long are you going to let them win at this game? Because the way I see it, they are the big winners here today. Dont let them win today. Have you began to work the six steps yet? Its a start to the road to recovery. Make today that day of new beginnings for you. You deserve it after 24 years of pure hell. It is all about you now. luv you xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Oct 22 - 9AM (Reply to #38)
michele115 (not verified)
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Thats why I sent you some verses

From the Good Book...if we truly rest on faith - although hard when in such intense pain, we slowly come to terms with the fact that essentially, many things are out of our control. Seriously, I did not read cover to cover but day before when I was on Edge, I just kept saying Father help me, get this out of me, take it away, I surrender to your will but you gotta get this outta me or tell me what to do cause I don't like what I'm feeling and I don't think you want me feeling what I'm feeling so I surrender get it outta me! I went to sleep, woke up a normal human being...NOW, I am also fully aware that this state of normalcy is probably temporary but seriously Jaycee, its almost like aspirin...in a few minutes you start to feel peace. I'm not gonna question it, I'm gonna stand on faith because I'm in too fragile of a state not to use any and every tool in the arsenal. So, dismiss the energy, rest on faith. No matter what, it is out of our control. That is what we have to come to terms with. That is what I think screwed me up. THE AUDACITY - how could he? How could it be? All of it. Once I let go and said, OKAY I am powerless, a great burden was lifted. You can't drive yourself crazy. If for some reason the gods decide they will live in their dysfunction for the next ten years, do you really want to spend the next ten years focusing on thier breaking up? You can do so many more positive things in that time. YOU are what is important. Do whatever it takes to get the focus on you.
Oct 21 - 1PM (Reply to #32)
hooklineandsinker
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Mine made me out to be

Mine made me out to be demanding, controlling and selfish when he was dumping me. The new hag is quiet, submissive and drippy. So Jaycee you could turn yourself inside out and have a total personality transplant and you still wouldn't please them.