my hN told me he wants me to find a boyfriend only because he wants me to be happy is he trying to tell me hes happy where he is

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#1 Sep 23 - 7AM
jaycee
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my hN told me he wants me to find a boyfriend only because he wants me to be happy is he trying to tell me hes happy where he is

my hn told me again, he wants me to be happy so if having a boyfriend would make me happy, thats all he wants for me, is to be happy. is he trying to tell me, after all his lies, hes happy where he is? please someone reply

Sep 24 - 12PM
ShaynasMommy
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I would just like to say

that I only have this to add about the subject of "is he happy, or is he faking it with her." We all just have to come to a point and accept that it doesnt really matter it they are happy now or not. The fact is, even if they ever "reform" (fantasyland thinking), they still must reap the rewards of their past actions. The have to face the Karmic consequences. Its all well and good to be sorry, but the universe is gonna take its pound of flesh one way or another. They will be held accountable, period. So better to move on and stop looking for it to happen and just have faith that it will. For me, it reached a point that no matter if he saw the light and was truly sorry, I could never go back. There's just so much damage a relationship can take, before its unrepairable. I wasn't concerned anymore about some unwritten obligation that was supposed to be there for me to try to work it out with him over and over again. I wanted me back. You don't owe them anything, even if they are sorry, even if they do see the error of their ways, which they never do.
Sep 24 - 1PM (Reply to #62)
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So So ture .. oh my goodness

So So ture .. oh my goodness i have torn my heart to shreads picturing him laughing and kissing and loving the ow , in my mind they have the perfect relationship the psycologist and the narc , i hope she got good training as she will need it , its funny even his mother trained to be a psycologist to try and work out what was wrongnwith him. Heres what i know about my late narc , he has no idea he was abusive to me , so if he has no idea he was he cant change his behaviour can he .He will carry on doing the same things because he is a psycopath with absolutly no insight in too his own behaviour ,to have no empathy means no empathy , its not there , he doesnt get it ... the day i found out my mum was gravely ill he said "you need to get over it , people die all the time " he then proceeded to dump me for the 3rd time . When a week later i spoke to him and asked him why ... just why he had acted so calously he said "what if youre mum got really sick , i would never have been able to get out " ... it beggers believe, seriously im still opened mouth when i tell this story .. and guess what 6 weeks later he hovered me up again .. NPD is a serious disorder , theses are dangerious people , the only sanction on their behaviour is what they can get away with .When you find out you are dealing with one run away as fast as you can .There is NO fixing them .Yes they will get worse with age , the older they get the more detached they get from any inner core if there was any to begin with . They have 2 emotions and thats fear and anger , very basic , primative emotions , everything else is fake . Will mine get his come upence ...YES . see if they only have the basic emotion of fear and anger , happy is not fear and anger . They get happy in short bursts like when a drug addic has a fix and that is when they are coruting new supply , they go up and then they go crashing down just like a drug addic and thats the patten for all their lives . (so sorry about the spelling im on my mobile ) xxxxx
Sep 24 - 6PM (Reply to #63)
CarolKittyGale (not verified)
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Fabulous Scoop...love the

Fabulous Scoop...love the way you put it, hope my exN is crashing down even as I type...lol xxxx
Sep 24 - 5AM
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wow, read all the replies, and yes, you are all right. he thinks he is God, because he sees in someway I worship him, hang on every word he says. I guess I didnt realize it until now, but he has such control over me. Sadly for me, he uses that against me, to manipulate me and degrade me, so he can feel good when he discards me at every turn. I dont believe he has control over her though, I think he just knows how to manipulate her, allowing her to think she has control. perfect example, he would go away over night supposedly to see his mom and hangout with his old buddies from high school, a real small group of loosers, who worship him, all the time, yes, I would encourage him to go, especially in the last couple of years, so as to keep him away from her, i guess, but now that he is with her, he barely ever goes, and most times he takes her with him. I never wanted to go, or had to watch the house, dog,kids, and felt like he should see his only friends, as he thinks hes popular, but really has no one. i dont think he has a real friend in the world. he himmed and hawed how much he wanted to go this weekend, but guess what, hes not, so pretty much she is in control of him. for a while, i thought he just didnt want to fight with her, but now, i think he wants to be with her, so he doesnt even really want to go. he wants to play family with her over the weekend, probably go to the carnival her kids football game, etc, pretty much anything to humiliate me. when we were together we really never did much, but they go to many places together, yes, he always used the excuse we didnt have any money, which we didnt, but its different, if he really didnt want to be with her, he would go away for the night. i have to admit, he would go early friday morn, and be back by 7am the next morn, when he did go, and say, i need to be home with you and the kids and work on the lawn. but that was all bullshit, he never wanted to go anywhere with me, because he had to make sure, she believed him when he said we had no relationship, or whatever bs he told her about us. well, i guess today i will have to accept it is she, who he wants and she is getting all the things i never got from him, i mean things, i havent gotten from him since we were first together years ago and very young. i guess i have to accept that when he tells me he doesnt love, wants to get out, its just another way of keeping me in his web, he should just get on with it and over it, tell me to move on, and go on his way, stop telling me he could never live without me in his life, and im the only one he loves, etc......im numb today, i wanted so desperately to believe he was going to do his own thing regardless of what she wanted, i thought he would be selfish with her, like he was with me, and i dont believe for one sec, he just doesnt want to listen to her, i know him, he would want to run if that were the case, wow, she really does have a hold on him and im assuming no matter how much he cheats, hes not leaving her. you are all right, i need to move on forget him and let him live his life with her and give him no more supply, because he doesnt hurt, she doesnt hurt only i hurt.........well, i guess she really did win, and it sucks, because no im not jealous of her, im jealous he is so different with her.

Jaycee

Sep 24 - 1PM (Reply to #60)
Briseis
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It's a shock to realize that

It's a shock to realize that we look at them as if they are some kind of God to us!! The thing is . . . you give him that "permission" to control you. That is the only way he can have ANY control over you. You let him do it. It's not him at all. It's all happening inside of you. Here's what it's like to be a human being. We are completely and totally the captains of our own ships . . . after about the age of 12. When we get too "big" for our parents to physically restrain, then we are truly independent, and God help us, we can do what we want, come what may. You let your Narc control you. We ALL do that . . . until we realize we are allowing them. Somewhere deep down inside, we are giving him permission to rule over us. You will be utterly free of him when you realize you are giving him permission to control you. Rather than saying "I don't give him permission!!!" try and see how you might be. See if it is true :) Take some time. It's something we all have to do, something we all go through in getting out of these relationships :)
Sep 24 - 11AM (Reply to #57)
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Jaycee

Hi Jaycee..... I'm brand new here, this is actually my first post. I've followed your story here for a few days, and my heart goes out to you. I know full well how it feels to have a nasty OW interlope in your life---it sucks, and it can get under your skin and stuck in your head .....the parade of mind movies that keep intruding when you're trying to find some peace.It's incredibly draining.(been there, done that, unfortunately) The mere fact that she actually felt the need to get in your face, tells me that she's a really messed up person. (I'm being kind, here) Something is badly broken in her, for her to behave like that.......it shows a strong lack of conscience and empathy...(hmmm, sound familiar?) Or, to put it simply, she's a jerk. And from what you've described, so is your N.A match made in hell.....they will end up making each other miserable. And I would lay money on it , that somewhere, in the back of her mind---she's very insecure about him. After all, he cheated with her---he's already demonstrated that he's perfectly capable of lying to the person he claims to love. What's the saying..."If he'll do it with you, he'll do it TO you...." The fact that she got confrontational with you at all, was the act of a very insecure person.She could very well be one of those women who needs to compete and poach men ("ha-ha, he likes ME more..")It could be that she has a need to reenact some childhood drama of sibling rivalry with a sister, or needs to punish "the Mean Mommy" (which I'm starting to think is what drives a lot of these men who mistreat their partners) In a nutshell, she's messed up. So is he....Jaycee, if you can get your head to a place where you're observing both of their antics in the manner that an adult shakes their head at an unruly child.........you will gain a LOT of your power back. You can't change them, or their behavior, but you can change your perception of it. Try to see them as beneath you. The truth is, they really,really are.They both failed to act with honor and integrity, and compassion. You're better than that. If this offers you a little bit more comfort....the statistics for successful relationships that were created with infidelity are incredibly low. Very,very few of those relationships survive..(somewhere between 3 & 10%, depending on which study you read.) I hope your pain eases soon.(at your own pace, of course.....)
Sep 24 - 12PM (Reply to #58)
jaycee
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to fed up

fed up, thank you for your reply, statistics are what they are, and every relationship is different, i hope you are right and they end badly as most, but who knows. what i do know is im dying inside right now and if i didnt have this site and my therapist who knows what would happen..........thank you for talking to me, much appreciated.........please pray God answers my prayers, as if he does I will be well again.

Jaycee

Sep 24 - 12PM (Reply to #59)
michele115 (not verified)
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God Answers Prayers

God will answer your prayers as long as you're praying for the right thing that will bring about your highest good. Such as: Dear God, please help me heal, bring peace and serenity to my mind, help me to rid my mind and my soul of this cancer that I will call the Narc so that I can move on and reach my fullest potential. Help me to learn the lesson in all of this, and help me to continue to grow and love. Give me wisdom so that I have the ability to make the wise decisions and give me strength to deal with all of the adversity that is surrounding me right now.... NOTE: The NARC is nowhere in your prayer....because it's all about you.
Sep 24 - 7AM (Reply to #52)
anonymous
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Jaycee - You started out good

You started out great with this post: "wow, read all the replies, and yes, you are all right. he thinks he is God, because he sees in someway I worship him, hang on every word he says. I guess I didnt realize it until now, but he has such control over me. Sadly for me, he uses that against me, to manipulate me and degrade me, so he can feel good when he discards me at every turn." But then you regressed: "I dont believe he has control over her though..." and the rest of your post remained focused on HIM and HER. You're still not getting it. You know what he is. You know you will not change him. And she means nothing. So stop thinking, talking, worrying, writing about HER or HIM. Start thinking, talking, worrying and writing about yourself and what you're going to do to unentangle yourself from him. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing about HIM. He's a bore. I want to hear more about YOU. (((hug))).
Sep 24 - 9AM (Reply to #53)
jaycee
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morty

thanks for your frankness, but you say she means nothing, maybe she should mean nothing to me, but she took from me my last ounce of dignity and now prances around town with him gloating laughing feeling victorious, you would feel as i do, humiliated, angry i allowed it, desperate to get back my dignity, if you only knew me, i (not being a narc) am this beautiful, wonderful, compassionate, overly empathetic woman, who loved life so much at one time, if i can even remember,now im so thin and gaunt and look as if, well i am, defeated. you want to know about me, i dont know me, not anymore, im sad and lonely and heartbroken, defeated and humiliated, coupled with stress and worry and have a daughter who self medicates and a son who was on his way to the top of his game (as a soldier) loving serving his country, now he is angry and drinks himself everynight, although, i wish he were here, but better he is not, when he got home from iraq he went crazy about how thin ive become, more hateful than ever about the man he once called dad, now calls that pos, who is dead to him, yet, i know in his heart, he needed his dad, no matter what he was. i had an amazing job, i lost that too, now im searching to find one, but can't every job has so many candidates i get two and three interviews and get passed up. i used to make people laugh all the time, now i cant look people in the face, i hang my head low, for the shame of it all, if people only knew what a monster he was, they would look at me differently, but because i covered for him for so long, and convinced people how wonderful he was, as i didnt want anyone to know the truth, they look at him like, oh, guess he didnt love her, found someone he loves, oh divorce happens everyday, no big deal, hey she told us what an awsome guy he was, too bad it didnt work out for them. instead of knowing what a monster he is, and saying look at that pos, discarded his wife and kids for that whore, now hes playing family with her and her kid. that is how i feel, this is who i am now. you see, he took my life from me and there are days i would have rather him killed me, then did this too me. as for her, someday, she will know her victory was in vain, but maybe not, maybe he will never reveal to her what he truly is, and maybe she will never catch onto him and his cheating, because, frankly shes not a very smart person, shes very dumb, and the sad thing is, six months ago, she couldnt hold a candle too me, now it is she who looks like the woman whos got it going on. so she should mean nothing too me, but she means everything too him and that kills me........

Jaycee

Sep 24 - 12PM (Reply to #56)
michele115 (not verified)
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Jaycee

I'm being a bit harsh today but it's not meant to harm. You have to try to snap out of it so that you can deal with all the feelings you have. You are going on and on about what he said, what she did and we know that and yes, dear, write it away, get it out we're reading all of it and my heart really does go out to you. In fact, let me say, I feel the same way about looking gaunt, losing myself etc...but we have to work really hard at trying to D&D...THE ILLUSION WE CREATED. ACCEPT THAT WE CREATED IT and find a way out of it one way or another. You wrote: she couldnt hold a candle too me, MOST LIKELY THAT IS THE TRUTH! But does it matter in terms of how JAYCEE is going to take care of JAYCEE now it is she who looks like the woman whos got it going on. YOU SAID IT YOURSELF...LOOKS LIKE is this not you still creating an illusion. Is this the truth? Does she have it going on? so she should mean nothing too me, A RATIONAL THOUGHT! but she means everything too him and that kills me........ BUT SHE MEANS EVERYTHING? Does anyone or anything mean EVERYTHING to a NARC? What or who means evrything to a NARC? Stop focusing on them...focus on you and you will stop that which is "killing" you. Reverse the rolls, it's okay for it to be ALL ABOUT YOU now.
Sep 24 - 11AM (Reply to #55)
ShaynasMommy
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Now its my turn to speak Frankly.

"....she took from me my last ounce of dignity." No, honey, she didn't. I love ya but I gotta call BS on that one because no one is able to take your dignity. In fact, you proved that the day you threw the bum out on his ass!
Sep 24 - 9AM (Reply to #54)
anonymous
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This is You - In Your Own Words

Jaycee is: beautiful wonderful compassionate empathetic loves life amazing at her job makes people laugh all the time The rest is just crap. THIS is who you are. And it has nothing at all to do with anyone else but YOU. I like YOU. =)
Sep 23 - 1PM
Used
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jaycee

i agree with brisies.... but do you know why this man thinks he is GOD, b/c you treat him like one.... you litrely hang on his every word.... the amount he spews on you, i am not suprised he looks ill, i bet he looks better after he talks to you... he has to spew that venom somewhere...
Sep 23 - 12PM
Briseis
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Is he your puppetmaster?

Is he your puppetmaster? When he says "JUMP!" do you say "how high?" It's interesting to me (and pretty sad) that you feel like this is some kind of threat :( Seriously. Who the hell IS this man? Genghis Khan? He's nobody. He doesn't even MAKE SENSE!! You are trying to figure him out, and we're telling you to give up, he's nuts!! You are taking the ravings of a crazy Narc seriously. He's sick. Would you jump and obey the schizophrenic on the street corner? I see your biggest problem (it was TOTALLY mine too) that somehow these Narc IDIOTS get blown up in our minds into Gods or something. One word, and they can turn our lives upside down. That is just crazy!! How did we get to a point that some clinically insane person has this much control over us??? If telling you to get a boyfriend sends you into this much of a tailspin (looking at it objectively here) then you are looking at him like he's some kind of God. And he's much more like the opposite number . . . THINK about his, honey. Step out of your panic and THINK (((hugs)))
Sep 23 - 12PM
michele115 (not verified)
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Here's My Answer Jaycee...

Are you happy?...
Sep 23 - 12PM
hopefuljms
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You really need to stop

You really need to stop having personal conversations with this guy. Keep it strictly to the business of the house and the divorce. You have got to STOP allowing him to drive you insane. You will never get past this if you don't set boundaries for both him and yourself. Next time he brings up any personal subject about your life all you have to do is say that is not a topic for conversation and is no longer his concern and then let it go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 23 - 11AM
onwithmylife
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These men are made out of the same fabric!

Mine said to me once I need to find a new boyfriend and he needed to live by himself, that is because I think deep down on a subconscience level, he knows something is very wrong with him but he would rather die that admit he is mentally ill...................
Sep 23 - 11AM
jaycee
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Im convinced he is insane, moment to moment

spoke with hn again, we are trying to refinance the house before divorce goes through, and we started talking and he said, i dont know what your deal is about wanting a boyfriend so bad, but i dont want you to have a boyfriend, i dont want you to move on, i said, thats what you said this morn, he said no yesterday when we were fighting i said it cause i was angry. ok, hes insane, he said it again today. he said you know im not happy with her, im just bidding my time till i can afford a place of my own, i love you more than anything in the world, narc speak for you love me, i wish i had never left, well i threw you out.........same thing he says.....well, if he wished that, why would he not at least pretend to want to come home, so i would have the pleasure of saying no. i really think hes lost his mind, all the illegal steroids and who knows what other meds and drugs, have really taken a toll on him. he looked so bad in the pic on fb, he did himself a favor by making her remove it. he has no idea the damage he is causing here, i really need to finish the refinance go through with the divorce soon, and end this bullshit, he lies so much he believes his own lies. too bad, he threw away a beautiful wife and two amazing children, for what, a relationship we all know is doomed as it began as a dirty little secret. his ups and downs and his need for new supply constantly will keep him unhappy and even if he stays with her a while, it cant last, he cant do what he wants when he wants and eventually, he will feel stiffled, luckily though, he has found a way to cheat constantly, too bad he cant find a way to go off for the wkends alone like he used to here. she is so dumb, he only saw her when he snuck out of work at lunch, and she thinks hes not doing the same now, he even finds time to sneek by here while shes in the shower or at the store, this girl better wake up, and i pray she does really soon. this man is sick and its getting me sick physically, please all of my friends here, please ask God to answer my prayers, pls..........xoxo jaycee

Jaycee

Sep 23 - 4PM (Reply to #44)
better off
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If only you were

If only you WERE convinced he's insane. Would you go down the insane asylum and get in arguments with the patients about who really is Napoleon? Would you go into a three year old preschool class and argue with them about reality? This is what you're doing. I told someone else, narcissists are SPEAKING GIBBERISH and you are acting like he's speaking sensible English. Jaycee, do this for me... can you name even three symptoms of NPD? Name them for me. Name five if you can.
Sep 23 - 4PM (Reply to #45)
Scoop
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Read all you can on this

Read all you can on this disorder , google it , find out books , you tube it . It really will set you on the path to freedom when you find out who and what your are dealing with ... xxxxx
Sep 23 - 3PM (Reply to #43)
MovinOnUp
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Jaycee

You mentioned that you're refinancing the house before the divorce goes through. Have you filed for divorce already?
Sep 23 - 10AM
jaycee
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Oh God, I feel better from all your replies

I figured he had to lash out on me again, as i am sure he fought with her over the fb thing, and Im sure its eating him alive that i said im sick and tired of passing up so many great offers from awsome guys, hes probably in a mood and wants me to think hes happy to hurt me, yet, he cant tell the truth to save a life. even if hes happy for the moment he will wake up tomorrow and be miserable again. i was scared for a while thinking this was the only way he could without telling me say he was happy with her, jokes on him, we all know he will never be happy. and of course, he says with his lying voice, no, i dont want you to move on, i dont......in his head he is saying what do i care, i can always get you back. sick and twisted and i need to move on even if it kills me. please pray God answers my prayers, i need them right now......and thank you all, jaycee

Jaycee

Sep 23 - 9AM
jaycee
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i just want to know if this is his way of saying hes happy now

yes, i know he doesnt love me and i know its over, but i just cant handle the fact that he is telling me he is happy, without telling me, is he saying this today, because today he feels happy with her, tomorrow is another day. is this a narcs way of saying adios, im finally happy where i am, so you go and be happy elsewhere. please just tell me point blank as a narc, is he telling me without saying it, hes happy and doesnt need my supply anymore. please, im going crazy right now, yesterday was nightmare, the day before he was loven me up saying how miserable he is with her and cant wait to get out. so what is it, did he wake up yesterday and decide hes happy with a girl he tells me constantly he doesnt love and cant wait to get out, he just called about our mortgage and i said, so in other words you are telling me to be happy, because suddenly your happy where you are, he said no, i told you im not happy and i want out, i just want you to be happy, it would kill me if you were with another man, but i cant stop you if that will make you happy (this all stems from me saying, im sick of passing up so many good offers from great guys, that burned him the other day) but i dont want you to move on, no thats not what i want, was trying to tell you i want you to be happy no matter what, and it has nothing to do with me being happy because im not......im outta there as soon as i can figure out how to pay another rent while i pay everything at the house.......

Jaycee

Sep 24 - 11AM (Reply to #37)
ShaynasMommy
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Ok Jaycee

I will tell you point blank: He's UNhappy, and he needs your supply. He's an ASSHOLE, and he needs your supply. He's an UNhappy, ASSHOLE PSYCHO....and he needs your supply. so please, for the love of God, stop giving it to him. Its wasted energy and you don't have any left to spare.
Sep 24 - 11AM (Reply to #38)
jaycee
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ok jaycee

shaynasmommy, its me hes unhappy with, bottom line, he cant stand to see the weak feeble woman, who is in his mind so far below him and his whore. hes so unhappy that he wasted his life with me, a woman he didnt love. i dont believe for one minute hes unhappy when hes with her. i think she feeds him good supply so when hes here lately he acts out his rage, because i disgust him. i wish you were right and hes just plain unhappy everywhere, but i dont believe it, i think the thought of having to pay bills for me and his daughter irks him, so he rages, and he rages because he thinks im a looser and just another pain in his ass. thats why i believe hes been raging at me.

Jaycee

Sep 24 - 2PM (Reply to #40)
MovinOnUp
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No, no, no... Jaycee. He's

No, no, no... Jaycee. He's only unhappy with you because you FINALLY called him out on his behavior and threw his ass out. And he will resent having to pay you a dime. Count on it. Has nothing to do with you being a loser and everything to do with Ns never taking responsibility for any of the messes they create. And if they appear to, you MUST take it with a gallon of salt and keep your eyes peeled because nine out of ten times they're looking to snow you so they can screw you from a different direction. They will NEVER be looking out for you. It's simply beyond them. You're not a loser, Jaycee. He is, and always will be. I seriously hope you've gotten advice as to whether refinancing is truly the best option for YOU right now, and that you are not just going along on his say-so. Because you CANNOT trust him to protect your financial interests. I apologize if that's too personal, but I've seen too many woman screwed not to speak up. The fact that he got nice again after trashing your house -- while in the process of refinancing... makes me leary. Please just make sure it really is the best option for you and your daughter.
Sep 24 - 12PM (Reply to #39)
michele115 (not verified)
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Okay Jaycee

You said: its me hes unhappy with, bottom line, he cant stand to see the weak feeble woman, who is in his mind so far below him and his whore. hes so unhappy that he wasted his life with me, a woman he didnt love. Do Narcs have real feelings? Can they ever be really happy? Is it YOU that made him unhappy? Are you really so far below he and the whore? Did you force him to "waste" his life with you? Why aren't you doing the Charlie Brown thing I suggested, "ignore" him? What are you doing within your power to stop the madness? Do you really believe this man is GOD? Why are you listening to him? What is ONE thing you can think of TODAY whether he is around or not to take back your power? You have the power over YOUR mind, he doesn't but you are giving it to him. When are you planning to stop letting him have the power? YOU are the most important person here, not him. You have the power. Remember that.
Sep 23 - 9AM (Reply to #32)
Happy1
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just the fact that he HAD to

just the fact that he HAD to reach out to you to tell you this stuff is hurtful and how they work. He is not happy or he would just silently move on, but no! He his determined to make you even more miserable by his words which makes me sick to my stomach. This is exactly what my N has done to me in the past but now I don't do what I've done in the past. Now, if I were you and you felt the need to respond. I would just say something like. "I appreciate your note but frankly don't care and don't need your approval note for me to move on". Thanks anyway and have a nice life."
Sep 23 - 10AM (Reply to #33)
jaycee
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just the fact

happy, you are right it is hurtful, but i think at the moment he means it, but i am praying he is not saying this because he is happy where he is, all the months of denying loving her and all the months of hearing how unhappy he is, suddenly he wants me to get a boyfriend, i know this stems from my comment about how im sick of passing up so many great offers, i know that burned him inside and now hes getting me back. one good thing is i can still control a little ofhim, as soon as i freaked about her having their pic up on fb, he had her take it down asap. i just pray hes not happy with her, and not happy anywhere right now, even if hes not happy with our situation. i know he goes back and forth with me, the way he needs me desperately, then doesnt need me at all, its all in the moment for him, maybe she gave him some damn good sex last night and hes feeling fulfilled so he thinks hes happy there, for the moment, to bad as we speak hes with his ooow from work doing her right now at the motel 8, heheheheheh, yeah, his whore will get hers even if hes happy for the moment.

Jaycee