my psycho mother in law set me back so far im still shaking this morning

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#1 Oct 26 - 6AM
jaycee
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my psycho mother in law set me back so far im still shaking this morning

I cant see without glasses and was waiting for my friend to call right back, answered phone thinking it was her....it was my psycho mother in law, shes a bigger pathological liar than her son. i wish i just hung up, i didnt i listened to her bullshit, then she had the nerve to tell me, oh, my hN came to visit by himself last week and told her he needed to get out of whores apt, couldnt deal anymore, and was looking for a place of his own, she continued to say, he will probably end up on your couch, i said, i dont think so , i will never go through that again. ever. then she proceeded, slap me for listening to say, well, he told me at first, he loved her, i said, whats he gonna say, i fked up my life for sex......i said well he continues to tell me, hes never loved her, and continues his lies to me, she said, oh, i know he loves you, yeah right. i told her everything i told you about the whore is the truth, i know your son told you i lied about it all, and she started laughing and said, i know, he told me you were lying about it all. i said, your son is the liar. and shes a whore......she said well, NICE GUYS are hard to find and she was looking for a man.....i said you consider your son a nice guy, he walked out on his kids when they were six and eight, and forced me to throw him out again while your grandson was in Iraq. Nice guy, are you kidding. she said, well he makes good money he works hard and hes so handsome, how could she resist, i said, he had a family, thats how she could have resisted, finally after twenty separate lies in ten minutes, i said i have to go....i was shaking and sick all night, she set me back so far.........what psycho believes her son is a catch after what hes done to his family for so many years......too his own kids........please tell me the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.......jaycee

Oct 26 - 10AM
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jaycee

This is so unbelievable, but that is how some women think, he is a nice guy cause he has a job and his handsome. And she is his mother, he could be a mass murder, she would still think of him as her baby. Forget it jaycee, I never had one mother in law who liked me, just forget it. I am so sorry for you, I feel you, this need to stop jaycee, we have to break that circle.
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #15)
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jen, you are right, it needs to stop, and trust me, its going to stop starting with that evil bitch he calls a mother. fuck her and her son,,,,,,,,they can have each other and the whore, they can live so easily without his children, let them go ahead, they will get theirs in the next life. xoxo Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 10AM
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why did I speak to that evil bitch

why did i even speak to the evil bitch mil, she is as sick as her son, and cruel to boot, the conversation has sent me back months, she did it purposely, i think she enjoys my pain as well as he does. they are twisted and sick and feed off the hurt of others, they live in their own dillusion of what ever they do, is ok, because their happiness comes first, doesnt matter if children are involved, they come first. boy, i will never answer the phone again, unless i know who it is, she will never hear from me, nor will i ever take a call from her again. she can pride her son all she wants, hes such a nice guy, of course, the whore wanted him, what girl wouldnt want such a nice guy.........they are psychotics, all of them..........Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 1PM (Reply to #13)
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My grandmother (my narc

My grandmother (my narc father's mother) used to call MY mother and do the same thing to her :( . Berate MY mother because she didn't try hard enough to get my father (her son) to get a job, to behave himself, yadda yadda. I still remember my mother's face while she was stuck on that phone listening to her MIL, and getting torn apart. These MILs will think their Narc son is a golden child if he were still pooping his pants at age 50. They'd have some reason it was OK, and then blame you for it. Is it any wonder. Evil is intergenerational, for sure. Not always, but often enough. Now you know, Jaycee, that all you have to do is say "Oh crap, the noodles are boiling over! Bye!!" and hang the hell up on that Narcogenitor :D Soon you will be able to do that with her beloved Son, too.
Oct 26 - 10AM (Reply to #11)
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jaycee

i know you are angry, but its done now... i broke all contact with my exh and narcs cohorts.... if her KNOB of a son contacts you, tell him you dont expect this old witch to phone you again.....talk about the devil and their spawn...good luck..... and if he so wants to leave ow....perhaps he can move in with MUMMY DEAREST....or will they cramp each others style...or just compare notes!!
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #12)
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the funniest thing is, my girlfriend always says why doesnt he just move in with his true love his mommy, she says they are freaks and worship eachother, but funny you say they would cramp each others style. too bad they are both pieces of shit and my kids could care less about her and about him.......my daughter only uses him for money, and hes so stupid, to worried he has too impress her, he gives her money, duh, shes an addict shes getting her drugs you dumb fuck, but he says, shes fine, you just want problems. he has no idea what i go through with her, but plays the sugar daddy to her, and of course, an addict loves that, not the person, the money..........Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 7AM
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jaycee

dear jaycee, i was going to post to you sunday, buti didnt know how ifelt and if it would come out right, so here goes...when you talk of your husbands ow... it used to trigger me[no offence]b/c tho i have posted about about narcs ow coming looking for me..to smirk about she had been in a relationship with him all the time we[me and him were friends]it turned out he had lots of ows but she was the only one who got in my face... she took such a delight in telling me, and though i acted cool...i had to keep my hands in my pockets b/c i was shaking, and tho i got to tell her the score about him and she kept saying he has used me, he has used me..but the problem was he was ONLY A FRIEND ,so how could i act up to much.... but i hated her so much.... i thought any one but her,all the things you said...she was as bad as him...he said after, she was lying, and she was just a convience, and he wasent going to be with her anymore...they WERE still together, i saw them other people saw them...she became the thorn in my side, but i then dropped him and said i hope she and all your lies were worth it losing me...that was a year ago..i never spoke to him again.. the point of the story i was out sunday and saw her with another man, when she saw me she looked away...and she looked such a mess... i came home and thought, so KARMA i suppose, so why dont i feel that emotional... cos i relized i didnt give a toss anymore... i didnt think yah. nothing was what i felt ,and said to my self...that was all i ever wanted for it to be anyone but her... i no longer give a toss weather its her or not.... and please god you will reach a level of acceptence one day.. and as for his mother....they are as bad as each other...she wont call him bad b/c thats what he learned from her and thats fine with her.....good luck jaycee
Oct 26 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
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used

Im so glad you responded, its fine what you say, i listen, i love advice and love to hear others versions, and you are lucky to have seen karma come to your hN ow and you felt nothing, thats peace. i envy that......i pray you are right and i will reach that level of acceptance no matter who he is with. my God, is his mother a sick bitch or what.....they are so creepy and scary, maybe they are truly monsters and were created in a petrie dish........lol Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
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thankyou all my freinds

thankyou for responding to my peace and tranquilty posts.... i wrote it for us all but ..no way did i expect the response i got back noway....i cried... but good tears... love to you all.. but a special love to michelle 115, who is in such a bad place at the momentxxxxxxxxxx
Oct 26 - 6AM
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Aww jaycee

some moms just accept whatever the hell their sons do. Part of the problem Ns never take any responsibility. Mommy will fix it for them. ewww My Ns mom & I were good friends and when we were together she would tell me how the family loved me and I was the best thing ever for him. Then he moved back home and I sent her an email after going to the doctor & telling her about his cheating and lies and that he gave me chlamydia. I never heard a word from her. I always told him he was alot like his mother. They don't fall far from the tree dear. Kinda sounds like she just wants someone to fix her son so she doesn't have to worry about him anymore. Let it be someone else. Not you. My thoughts are with you today.
Oct 26 - 7AM (Reply to #6)
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faith

you are so right, this bitch mil wants me to fix her damaged son, ill be damned if i would even try, i tried for over twenty years, and screw her that bitch.......i will never speak to her again. she doesnt worry about him, shes just to selfish to fix him herself, deepdown she knows she made him this way.........Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 6AM
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Jaycee

I am so sorry you had to go through that. MIL sounds like a conniving bitch!...At minimum, she is a woman. A decent woman would have been ashamed of the piece of shit her son turned out to be. I have a similar distaste for the narcs mother. I just had this conversation with my friend the other night and I was telling her I was livid over a similar incident - as a woman to a male child it is my hope he doesn't turn out to be a shit but things can happen beyond my control. Why I fully understand even Jeffrey Dahmer's mother loved him *he was a sick murderer, we are also women. I think if it were me I would be compelled to say as a mother, "He's my son and his blood runs through my veins and I love him, but I don't agree with what he did and I'm just saying that as a woman, you need to do what you need to do" and hope that she "gets it" meaning, don't tolerate abuse. Its mothers like this that are creating all the shit in the world. She's toxic and no the apple doesn't fall far from the tree - cut them both loose. He's a Shit and she's the asshole from which he sprang.
Oct 26 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
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Michele, i cant believe i even spoke to her, she set me back so far, im still shaking, its like waking up and realizing you are part of the Munsters, but the evil version of them, scary....he is shit and she is the asshole from which he came. thanks, i needed some responses.xoxo Jaycee

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Oct 26 - 1PM (Reply to #3)
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Oh Jaycee, I can identify

Oh Jaycee, I can identify with everything you wrote. And as soon as my heart palpitations calm down I'll tell you why. My NMIL had been abused my her husband, who also abused my N, and had divorced him when my N was ten. She was an alcoholic, and I heard just as many nightmare stories about her from my N and his siblings as I did about their father over the years. But I tried to extend her some empathy because she had been abused and left with four kids about a year apart. This family dynamic, and hearing about it over and over again is one of the reasons I found it very difficult to leave my N. Despite the fact that her son was no picnic, I always sensed that she didn't think I was good enough for him. And there was never any doubt that my N was her favorite. Now that I'm well schooled on narcs, I understand why she detested me. I was everything she wasn't, and I wasn't for sale. She was social register and hadn't done a damn thing to earn anything she had... and I think she sensed that I found that whole scene silly and was more impressed with self made people. Being heavily entrenched in any type of hierarchy never suited my personality, and I think it is something that many creatives avoid like the plague. Despite what's happened to me and my kids with the N, one thing I can take away from this mess is the knowledge that the little empire we built, we built by ourselves with no help from anyone. Though I always knew this woman was sick, I had no idea just how cruel and self centered she was until a few years ago, about twenty seven years in, when she very casually decided to tell me that my N's father had been diagnoised as a sociopath waaaay back when my N was ten. It took me a few seconds to register that the only reason she was telling me this now was to pin the diagnosis on my son who was in his early twenties and struggling with an addiction to pain killers after a near fatal car accident. ( And as we all would surmise, an inability to connect emotionally with the father he loves dearly) A week or two later my N comes home from her house and pulls the book "The Sociopath Next Door" out of his backpack, and says his mother sent it home for me. He doesn't bat an eye, and neither do I -- though I felt like a deer trapped in headlights. Me knowing this information was one thing, him knowing I knew quite another. And he handed me that book like it was a book on gardening or something. Goes without saying that he also went into high gear to finish me off in ways impossible for anyone to see but me. -------- Language Alert ---------- This fucking lowlife bitch sat back and watched me raise her son without a care in the world about how he might affect the health and happiness of her own grandchildren. And she did so without ever missing an oppourtunity to elicit empathy from me, for the abuse she suffered decades prior. Over and over again I validated her and her sons pain, and neither mine nor my children's has ever even been acknowledged. The anger I have for my N pales in comparison to the rage I have about what this bitch did to us. It has taken every fiber of my being to resist the urge to pull the trigger on this woman and destroy the image she's gone to great lenghts to protect. She actually put one of her own pre-printed name and address stickers inside that book she gave to me. I've been trying to untangle some of our fianaces before I file for divorce. I've also been going back through the years to document the abuse to make sure I'm armed to the hilt if I decide to go that route, something I didn't want to do because I think it will be hard on my kids. But I dream of that bitch having to take the stand and explain how and why that book came to be in my possesion. I've also entertained the notion of filing a lawsuit, that just this second I can't remember what its called, something like Intentional Infliction of Emotional Cruelty that took the place of alienation of affection in all but a few states. Helldweller, if you read this, you know I understand your desire for justice. So far, the only plus here was the GASP on the other end of the line when I called up the therapist who guilted me into staying with my N twelve years ago and told her my news. At least that gasp told me that she understood she had sold myself and my kids down the river. Aside from me knowing all about my N's abuse, when I met my N he had recently returned from Viet Nam. I was nineteen when I met him, twenty-two when we married, and I made the mistake of writing off some of his angst and strange push and pull behavior to shell shock. I was in school with a lot of vets that were having trouble adjusting. So Jaycee, I understand how you would be triggered and shaking like a leaf after that phone conversation with your MIL. I'll never feel the need to forgive my mother in law, though it goes against my grain not to. She's shown no remorse or taken any responsiblity for her actions. And when I cut her off cold turkey, the woman reached out and stung my daughter. The bitch deserves to rot in Hell and I will dance on her grave. But my mother encouraged me to stay with my N up until the day she died. And I want to forgive her, and myself for allowing her instincts to override my own. I was her most rebellious child and it took a lot of reflecting to understand why I jumped through so many hoops to please her. I have that answer now after a lot of soul searching. But I miss her and wish she were still here to help my children and myself through this pain. My MIL didn't spring this news on me until after my mom died. Thanks for listening. It felt really good to get that out to people that I KNOW will understand the rage I feel inside toward this sub human posing as a woman.
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #4)
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oh jaycee, i can identify

movingonup, your story is so sad. God what you have not been through. i feel your pain, they are evil those subhuman mils arent they........screw them, our children love us not them.....my mil never felt i was good enough for her son. she never thought anyone was good enough for him. she always said to him when our son was a baby, just leave them come home and you ll forget all about them in time. she told me, my son is too handsome to be married, etc......she was an ugly jealous bitch who hated that i took such good care of her looser son and gave him such beautiful children. shes a pathological liar, like her son, and she fuels his narc, give it time and she will rip the shreds out of this whore too. she already told him she didnt want the girl there, but of course, he asks and she says yes. shes a two faced subhuman bitch who will get hers in the end, as will yours. trust in the Lord, he always said, "vengence will be mine." Jaycee

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