Reasons why i "DONT" want him!

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#1 Aug 31 - 9AM
betty2020
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Reasons why i "DONT" want him!

Mon, 08/16/2010 - 17:58 — Susan32

Before I found this website, I felt tempted to call my ex-Psych professor (along with all my other former professors) It's been a decade. I hadn't idealized him as the Great Teacher, but I had normalized him. Then I found this website, and, thank God, I realized WHY I hadn't called him.

I decided to come up with a little list-
1)The negativity
2)The put-downs
3)The dishonesty
4)The outright cruelty
5)Anger whenever I was happy
6)Anger whenever I was sad
7)The power plays
8)The impotence when it came to philosophy
9)The impotence when it came to personal things
10)The cold lack of emotions
11)The utter lack of original ideas (there IS no brain Viagra to cure that)
12)The memories--too many to list here
13)Inability to acknowledge my achievements
14)Inability to forgive
15)Inability to TRULY listen and empathize

Why would I WANT that? I don't. Even if he talked to me, I'd be the one tuning him out...like he had tuned me out.

Aug 31 - 11AM
ShaynasMommy
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Reasons not to want to go (back) there

The sheer audacity. The self contradictions. The lies he told others about me. I wouldn't have hurt a fly, but he thought I was so evil. projection, projection, projection. the entitlement complex. He felt entitled to: my money my family's kind regards my apartment, otherwise he would have been homeless my car, transportation whenever, wherever my vagina, whenever he wanted it. (sorry to sound crass, but that's the reality of things) He would drive, when he actually had access to a vehicle of his own, over 60 miles at 3 am to my place to sleep with me, full well knowing I had to get up early in the morning and go to classes. the gaslighting. the blame for his own anger and impotence in life. Complaining about how his father completely screwed him and his siblings up as a boy, then being his best friend after the D&D calling his mom and telling her I was Bi-Polar (WTF? He doesnt even know what it means. If the uneducated fucker wanted to project a little more effectively, he would have called me a narc trying to convince me I was depressed and needed counseling/medicine holding that over my head telling me he would leave if I didnt go. Telling ppl that he had "been trying to get me to the altar for years" when in fact he's the one who called of our wedding 2X. There's more but I would have to write it in seperate volumes. If he tried to contact me, I seriously would DIE laughing. My physical heart couldnt take it.
Sep 8 - 8PM (Reply to #14)
Susan32
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Great list!

With NC, you can be grateful for having all those things... behind you. In a sense, we NEED to remember the past in order to NOT relive it. It helps us stay NC, so as to NOT be swept back up into the drama. I celebrate- A decade of being drama-free Having good friends&family Having a good job Writing for the past 7 years Keep writing!
Aug 31 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
ShaynasMommy
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Oh, BTW

I just remembered. I was the one who took my ring off after he made it clear that we had to work on things and were not ready to set a wedding date. And I guess I humiliated him by correcting him in public about being his girlfriend, not his fiancee at the moment, so yeah......I take the fall for that one (sarcasm, LOL)
Aug 31 - 12PM (Reply to #10)
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Shaynasmommy

I kept being told that we need to work on things before we could set a wedding date too - for two years. When things were calm for little while between us - oops! time to create more drama so he can say that we aren't ready to get married. Question for you - did he accuse you constantly of "walking away"? I got that all the time. He would push, push, push until I couldn't take any more - then I'd leave (any sane person would leave). Then I'd constantly hear about how we had problems because I was always walking out. Agghhhhh!!!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Sep 8 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
gettinbetter
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"Work on things"

what is it with that? mine would say that all the time? but he would never tell me what"things"
Aug 31 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
ShaynasMommy
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twisted

and they twist things like that big time. I think the correction should have been, you walked away BECAUSE of the problems, mostly HIS problems.
Aug 31 - 12PM (Reply to #11)
ShaynasMommy
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terri,

no, I don't recall him saying that (to my face, anyways). Because my problem was that I WAS NOT walking away when I should have. I kept asking him back, like a fool. Even though I stood up for myself while with him, he knew how to push my insecurity button, and that insecurity was being without him and never finding someone else to share my life with after him. Even when we were not getting along great and marriage seemed "off the table" at that moment, he would say stupid little things like, "I think we should try for a baby immediatley after we get married," and I would be like,.."duuuuh, OK!" They slowly build the fantasy so it seems real without question, then the abuse and degradation starts. Its unreal how they do this. But hey, without a consious to get in the way, youre unstoppable
Sep 2 - 8AM
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betty2020

the lying the crying the victim mode the taking me with him to the abyss the name calling. but most of all the negative affect he had on me, that changed me into someone i didnt like.
Aug 31 - 10AM
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please feel free to add to

please feel free to add to this list...xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Aug 31 - 10AM
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wow

number 8 is one of thosse weird ones they all have which would just make us think he was either dumb or over-logical, but it ins't so! i thought i just bored mine... so freakin' weird
Sep 9 - 6PM (Reply to #5)
Susan32
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Boredom

The ex-Psych professor would complain to his circle of young male followers about how "boring" I was. I'd ask him to his face about what me "boring"--and he'd go silent. Maybe it was my dislike for drama. The ex-P thought he was some GREAT PHILOSOPHER... but worry not, he isn't. None of my fellow alumni are praising his "beautiful mind." He was a legend... in his own mind. It's funny, his lecture from my freshman year, which used to make me so ecstatic, now can double as a natural sleep aid.
Aug 31 - 9AM
terri
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Great list!

I am always amazed at how similar all of these N's are. I'm sure they are all different ages, from different backgrounds, in different circumstances - yet they can all be summed up with the same list of characteristics. Everything on your list is exactly why I finally left my N. 13 - The inability to acknowledge my achievements is one that recently came to mind. I studied art in college and used to love to draw. Once I began a career in design and had started my family, my spare time is very little, so I don't have much spare time to get back to my drawing. My N had seen some of my drawings from my past life and instead of praising my talents and "reflecting" back to me how good I was at something, he said this: "I'm not sure you really did all of these drawings yourself because I never see you drawing anything" Of course, he would praise me in front of other people and tell them how talented I was and say that he was always trying to encourage me to get back to my artwork - it was a waste to have such a talent and not use it. But to me, he would just criticize me for not drawing anymore and insinuate that I was lazy. This is the kind of behavior that I would endure over and over and over until eventually, it didn't even seem as bad - I had come to expect it. And the worst part is that I actually started feeling like I WAS lazy because I didn't carve out the time in my very busy life to draw. Early in the relationship, I had taken one of my drawings that I was most proud of, had it framed very nicely and gave it to the N as a birthday gift. It took him awhile to hang it in his house but he finally did (in the other city). When he moved here and bought a new house, he never hung the drawing anywhere (he's lived here for over 2 years). After I ended the engagement, I let myself into the house (he wasn't there) to get my remaining belongings and grabbed the drawing and took it back! That REALLY pissed him off. Good for me - he deserved to have it taken away and I really am glad that I have it back - something that I can give to one of my children someday.

Believe in yourself!
Terri

Sep 3 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
Susan32
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Flattery

I went on a 3 year hiatus from writing IN GENERAL after the D&D. His flattery and inability to take my writing SERIOUSLY broke me down. He acted as if my writing were SO GREAT, and he projected his inability to take constructive criticism onto me. I did a mass email to my former professors of news articles I had written... the 4 years of "mentoring" got no credit (of course) The ex-Psych professor was unable to congratulate me. I had gotten validation elsewhere, but I wasn't dependent on it. He's never been able to say "After 4 years of being your teacher, I'm glad you are enjoying success in your writing." It's as if my success reminds me of what a failure he is. He can get grant $$$, but that's because philosophers must be giving good bj's these days.
Aug 31 - 11AM (Reply to #2)
betty2020
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Yes #13 is interesting. It

Yes #13 is interesting. It is those achievements that we have that lead them to take up interest in us in the beginning. Once they begin to D&D it is these achievements that they despise in us. When others around us acknowledge our accomplishments in a positive manner they are so quick to jump in and take the glory. However, it is only fleeting. Once this moment has passed they forget that special person they have in their lives and how lucky they really are. I really hope you go back to drawing That may be your calling and the reason you went though this to begin with...?? food for thought. xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)