viagra. Any thoughts ?

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#1 Jun 21 - 1PM
indenial
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viagra. Any thoughts ?

I found viagra opened in one of his cupboards. This was around the same time that I started to get really uneasy about him and think maybe he had cheated. Its when it all started to unravel really. Anyway he raged at me then I got the silent treatment and true to form by the time hed started to be nice to me again I was just so grateful I left the subject alone. Needless to say the viagra disappeared from the cupboard. However a while later I found evidence of oppened and used sachets of liquid viagra on top of cupboards. Then more recently I found a half eaten large blue viagra tablet and then the next day it was gone. I was staying with him at the time and I don't remember his erection being any different. But I began to think about it and couldn't understand why ? Anyway he used sex to hook me in because my ex and I had no sex life and he had erection problems so N has always provided me with lots of sex sometimes 5 times in a few hours and would keep an erection for a long time. Sometimes being unable to ejaculate which I put down to us having too much sex. I must add. I didn't actually want that much sex and the novelty soon wore off for me and I began to feel objectified and although he thinks he's the greatest lover he really wasn't, I just became very good at faking it lol. And although he was very large I can honestly say size isn't everything. Sex was boring and the same bloody routine everytime !! No imagination ! So anyway why the viagra ? If he wanted to spice things up why not say ? Selfish to the last I suppose but its something that has hung around in my head. When he raged at me the other day and said go back to your ex see if he can get a hard on now just get him some viagra, I said. Perhaps you could give him some of yours! He didn't bat an eye. Lying decieving stupid arse. I've had all sorts of horrible thoughts about why he uses it. I don't know but maybe it was just to make himself look like a stud who could go for hours time and time again. Quite frankly, who wants to with a bore like him ! When I spent more than a week with him I couldn't bear the thought of having to do it every night and every morning and in between. I'm not sure what he was trying to prove or whether he is juat a sex addict which makes me think how did he manage when we saw very little of each other. Makes me sick. Just needed to get that off my chest

Jun 22 - 4PM
naive46
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Patiencegal...yes, gay....

I'm glad you said that. I wondered, as well, after that one time whether he was gay. He seemed to not care about my woman hole (kind of gross to say it that way but you know what I mean) and cared more about my other body parts that men have. Why bother with a woman? Cut to the chase and just be with a man. Forgot to add he insisted I suck on his nipples several times and while I was doing that he stroked himself. Ick! Given how dominant and controlling he was during this whole incident, I assume he got his "moves" from porno and, if that was my first encounter, what on God's green earth would he have worked me up to??? These guys are F**KED up!!
Jun 22 - 2PM
indenial
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what is it with these narcs and anal !

When I first met him and even though he was married and had done a long stretch in prison I thought he's gay ! Anyway it wasn't until wed been in the relationship for over a year he graduallly became obsessed with licking my anus and putting as men fingers in as he could. Sorry I know that's graphic but really there is no other way to say it ! He seems to think I enjoy it even though I've shown my discomfort about it ! Think he was working his way up to anal but luckily I got out. Whatever floats your boat but it wasn't for me. Weirdo
Jun 22 - 11AM
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So that's what Viagra is all about?

Not sure how NOT to be detailed on this topic so here I go... I was with my N once physically. (I'm married and have been with my husband for 22+ years and only a couple of other guys before that.) My husband doesn't use Viagra so I've had no experience with a guy in that department. When I was having intercourse with my N, he would pull out of me and kept forcing me to "suck his d*k" to keep him hard. (3 times) He was erect the whole time so even afterwards I couldn't figure out what that was all about until I read about Viagra online (something about how it helps with erection but doesn't take care of the desire/arousal/hardness part....I am truly naive). In the end (after asking twice for anal sex and my not agreeing to do it), he started masturbating and ejaculated all over my stomach. Of course there was little to no "sunggling". He got right up to put clothes on and he was still erect after ejaculating. (Had NEVER seen that before - either a man ejaculating on me AND an erect penis after ejaculation.) I did finally figure out he had to have been "phamaceutically" enhanced but even our ellicit experience must not have been enough to keep him hard. It was by far the most degrading, cold sexual experience I've had and from what I read I got off pretty easy.
Jun 22 - 2PM (Reply to #9)
Arwen
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naive I had a very similar

naive I had a very similar experience, FYI.
Jun 22 - 4AM
agnesmurphy17
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Viagra

I did not know about this when I was with him. But the woman who replaced me, she told me that she found viagra. I had no idea. Mine had some ED. We never discussed it. Got mad at me once & said: "Maybe I am not hard enough or big enough for you." What triggered that at the time has escaped me. I think nothing. It was something in him. But even at the time I was thinking: If YOU are not hard or big, why is it projected onto me to determine "enough" for me? And why are you angry with me for what you perceive to be an issue which I have not raised? Projection. He was not hard enough or big enough for himself. So he projected onto me & got mad at me. So sick. Also, I learned from the woman who replaced me: Mine had a huge porn hobby of gay pornography. I never knew. When she discovered the porn, she confronted him. She said he was so scared & said that he was doing research into human depravity! He's a philosophy professor. Perhaps the ED was linked to being a homosexual trying to get it up with a woman? But he lives with & marries women because there is some "mother" attachment. (These guys are really twisted.) In the end, mine started to go on & on how sexually dissatisfied he was with me. (And he was such a boring & mechanical lover.) I felt he was trying to push me into s/m & objectifying roles. Started to push me into wearing "cut outs." I refused & he went ballistic. I contacted his first ex-wife. She confirmed. He is BIG TIME into s/m. (I left him before all that really confronted me.) These guys operate on so many layers. No one person can fathom the layer-upon-layer of deceit. They compartmentalize people. They are a different persona with each individual they interact with. However, the core personality of abuse, sexual dysfunction & perversion, and dysfunction -- all this remains. Only the superficial changes--the surface which lures women in.
Jun 22 - 2PM (Reply to #7)
Arwen
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Agnes all so true. It's

Agnes all so true. It's really important for us all to look at the actual sexuality part of our relationships with these n's because sexual behavior shows an awful lot about an individual - an awful lot. I am convinced that every narc I dates, which is basically every man, has been gay in the closet, and I don't know if anyone of them has come out to anyone privately, but it was very clear to me after awhile. One of the first real narcs I slept with told me straight-up in the beginning that he was heavily into S&M and regularly attended S&M parties and clubs. The sex was HORRIBLE. He was horrible.
Jun 22 - 3AM
LostandFound
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ED

The first time my exN and I were together it was athletic sex and it was 8 hours and really good...from that point on the sex became infrequent and he began to have ED. It got to the point where his libido dropped and he SAID he wasn't even looking at porn. He never blamed me but said all the pills he was on and the stress at work made him this way. He was a prescription pill addict and when that was confronted and sort of dealt with it didn't help the bedroom issues. He started taking the little blue pill and it's liquid brothers and NOTHING helped. He then began going on and on about how I should leave him because he wasn't a man anymore and he would never be able to please me and then he said he gave me permission to cheat just not to tell him. His whole persona was about being the sex god in the bedroom. If he couldn't be the MAN in the bedroom then he wasn't a man. For me in a normal loving relationship you take the good with the bad and you deal with it - just like if he had cancer - you are a couple and you move on. His response was to end things. It was really obvious how he could not comprehend on connecting on an emotional level. It was all about his penis and nothing about the emotion. His flirting and online cheating got worse as he was feeling less of a man and then his mental abuse of me stepped up. In the end I have to say I should have listened to him - left him to find a real man - not necessarily one that was an incredible lover just find a man who was a REAL man not an abusive asshole.
Jun 22 - 12AM
indenial
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i also found

Steroids and the breast cancer drug tamoxifen which I believe steroid users take to stop them growing breasts. and saved to his internet favourites, how to inject steroids. I wanted to believe him when he told me they were for other people. In fact I did believe him. Then I saw that they were being taken and he took them away with us ! How dumb I must have been ! And he's so careless with his lies
Jun 21 - 8PM
Arwen
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Yep...mine told me he took

Yep...mine told me he took Viagra with friends of his as an "upper". That was bullshit...he just couldn't admit to having somewhat (not totally) an ED problem. I don't know a narc who does not either steal viagra, have a running prescription for it, or gets it from acquaintances. Their lives are over if sex is over.
Jun 22 - 6AM
onwithmylife
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mine

had to take viagra near the end because of ED problems so he could get an erection.My guess yours is taking it to have so much sex with you, how old is the guy, does he have any health issues. He obviously c ould not have that many hard ons without the pill and sounds like you were a good sex doll for him to put his penis in, sad
Jun 21 - 6PM
Hunter
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I think a lot of them take

I think a lot of them take the blue pill. More CONTROL! Hunter