Why am I so heartbroken over a man who treats me like a used rag

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#1 Apr 11 - 10AM
jaycee
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Why am I so heartbroken over a man who treats me like a used rag

I just want to know why I am so heartbroken over a man,yes my hN, who treats me like a used rag. Why do I obsess over his other relationships, especially the one he is most involved in, the ow, why do I imagine he loves her so, and that the reason he cheated for twenty five years is because he never loved me, and was searching for true love. Why do I feel like no matter what has gone on between him and ow, he has realized he cannot live without her and that she is the one.....why do i care when he is so cruel, that the word cruel cannot even sum it up. why do i feel things would be different with him, if i were different and at least tried to have more things in common with him, and at least insisted on nights together and if i stopped giving him so much freedom, his ow is very controlling so obviously he likes that, it bothered him last time they lived together, but not enough to go back. i wish i would have been different throughout our marriage and then maybe he would have been different, or at least had an ounce of respect for me.........as he has less than zero respect for me, im just a used rag to him.

Apr 15 - 11AM
Arwen
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Jaycee...on them being left by women

my ex-N just flat out said to me as I packed my bags to get the hell away from him. "So, you're going to leave me like every other girl?" Do you get my point?
Apr 13 - 12PM
Deidre40
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jaycee;Two things, after

jaycee; Two things, after rereading what you posted...that I'd like to add... 1) She is very controlling. Why do you suppose that is? Because he cheats. :D And by golly...she's gonna make sure he doesn't cheat on her. It's ok that he cheated with her, but not on her. ;) Doesn't that sound like a fun relationship? 2) When two cheaters come together...they soon start distrusting one another. She inherited a cheater. Trust me. She will soon be paranoid beyond belief. They will be fighting, and he will return to you. Mark my words. But, don't take him back. The world is very round. :=)
Apr 13 - 1PM (Reply to #33)
jaycee
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deidre

deidre, they lived together for six months and broke up horribly, she called the cops on him saying he beat her, etc, then she begged him to come back to her for four months, she told him she made a mistake and wouldnt ever call the cops on him ever again.....they fought because she was controlling, never realized its because she had to make sure he wouldnt cheat on her, lol, i hope you are right and once again she starts controlling him, as she promised she wouldnt ever again if he came back, and they start fighting again, this time i hope he ends up in jail for a long time, lol that would be payback.......its so sad he always did return to me, but this time, i dont think so i think she is so afraid to loose him she will walk on eggshells forever............

Jaycee

Apr 13 - 5AM
gettinbetter
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Jaycee I know this hard to

Jaycee I know this hard to believe but you have been dealing with this pain so long that it has become comfortable and familiar to you. It defines this relationship to let it go means letting go of the last 25 years and that's scarier to you than dealing with the pain. In away you have become addicted to this pain because I think you may feel that the pain is better than nothing at all. It seems you have a bad case of addiction and are compulsively trying to resolve all of this trauma. What has your therapist told you?
Apr 13 - 5AM
Fawn
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Oh Honey

I know how you feel. I have been through it several times now, and I know that gut-wrenching pain and the hurt at the thought of him with someone else. But let me share with you the pattern that I have started to see. I read it on here right after I went NC, but I didn't believe it until I saw it. Ex-N is 43, like me, left me during cancer treatment--total jacka++. First girlfriend that he flaunted around town was our 23 year old babysitter. That was gut=wrenching on many levels. They were together about 9 months. He now has no contact with her, isn't friends with her, the kids never mention her name, etc. Next gf--early 30s, beautiful, thin, seemingly normal, recently divorced, teacher. This one really confounded me. How could she be with him? She was around all the time, the kids complained about it. This is a small town and one of my friends knows her and saw her at the gym. This is what she said.... She said that he was mean to her. She said that he would get mad at her for the dumbest things and when she tried to talk to him about it, he would say "That's just how I am. I'm an alcoholic and that's what alcoholics do." She said that it had ended very badly and that they were not friends and wouldn't ever be. She said that he had a LOT OF GROWING to do. They were together about 4 months. She has a 3-year-old that he was around a lot. HA! It is true Jaycee! They don't change, they can't. Some of his victims will figure it out, some won't for awhile. He will cycle through gfs like a washing machine. I promise. Now you and I both know that this knowledge doesn't completely stop the pain. I have been up in the middle of the night tonight fretting over his latest gf, who is about 24 or 25, with a 3 year old son. See the pattern? Guess how old our youngest was when he moved out? Yep, 3. I'm just kind of surprised and disgusted by how willing these women are to let a creepy old guy around their children so easily. I guess we all crave that perfect little family with a mommy and daddy and a cute little well-behaved toddler. The reality is that life and marriage and raising kids is a complicated, difficult and sometimes wonderful process. Narcs can't deal with anything that requires that much work or selflessness, so they cycle through one relationship after another, forever. Unless they find someone crazier than they are. That is the one caveat that still scares me. Hopefully, I will have my children close to being raised before that happens. Take heart honey, she isn't any better or kinder or prettier or nicer than you. She's just his latest victim, and we should all feel sorry for her.
Apr 13 - 12PM (Reply to #27)
jaycee
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fawn thank you

thank you for all you said, i really appreciate your story and im so sorry you have to deal with this as well. yours sounds like he goes from one to the next in terms of gf, mine gets attached to one, but has many other women for sex, but the ow he has now, has no idea who he is, shes madly in love with him and wants him no matter what, shes convinced she saved him from his horrible wife, me, and that she is the love of his life as well. they are both gym rats, love steroids, and boy is her face ugly, and she has a fat ass and fat thighs, but her upper body is ripped, a little too masculine for me, but the point is, he will keep her as home base for a long time, even if he screws around with several others, hes so good at his lies, she would never suspect. the women your husband goes for figure him out pretty quickly, mine can hide for years......but who knows maybe mine is as cruel to her as he is to me, but shes so in love she doesnt care, but i doubt he could be as cruel to anyone as he is to me......im sad and it hurts so bad either way..........

Jaycee

Apr 14 - 5PM (Reply to #28)
Fawn
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Hey Jaycee

You know that he is just as mean to her as he was to you. I'm sayin' it again, they never change. She is just playing house right now. Sit back and wait and watch girl, the house of cards will fall. It always happens this way. These guys are incapable of holding a relationship together, it is all pretend, a pretty show to impress people. Yes, you're right. My ex isn't very smart and he is so incredibly stingy with his money that he cannot keep a decent woman around for long in a relationship. He is full of self-loathing masked by his cocky, ridiculous youth-mongering attitude. It is becoming more and more sad to me after some time. I was in therapy for over five years, and it has been a rough road. I'm dating now, but nothing serious. I enjoy my life for the most part, but I still have my moments. I have turned my anxiety and fretting and anger into something positive. For every girlfriend he has, I have lost about 5 pounds. I look and feel better than I have in years. I'm really, really trying to not let him ruin the rest of my life. Don't let that dirtbag ruin the rest of your life Jaycee. He isn't worth it.
Apr 15 - 4AM (Reply to #29)
jaycee
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fawn

this guy has ruined more than half my life and i continue to allow him to do it. i hope you are right and he treats her as horrible as he treats me, its disgusting how cruel he is to me, but i highly doubt with her kissing his ass and him kissing her ass, as to get away with cheating, that he can be cruel to her, i think his i love you mask is on and going to stay on for a long long time.

Jaycee

Apr 15 - 11AM (Reply to #30)
gettinbetter
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Jaycee

"this guy has ruined more than half my life and i continue to allow him to do it." Here is where your answer lies instead of focusing on them turn your focus on this and you will start to see things click. The answer to this is not about him. Its about you. You can find freedom from this and its within you.
Apr 13 - 4AM
jaycee
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I cant believe i am still allowing myself to be so distraught

i dont understand, anyone else, wouldnt give this motherfucker an ounce of their energy if he treated them this way, and me, im still allowing myself to be distraught and feel soooooooo horrible, not sleeping good, not feeling good, and right now, i feel ugly, thats a first, i never felt this ugly and repulsed by myself ever, i guess because the ow has transformed her body in some 90 day workout diet thing and is getting her new boobs this month. not that i would ever want new boobs, but just because i am fifteen years older than her and dont work out, although i highly doubt she will be able to loose that fat ass and huge thighs and those horrific cankles, but her upper body is being transformed, not that i want big muscles but there is no fat on her upper body and my belly is a little saggy these days, not fat at all just not tight, oh im sick that he is so into her these days, i mean really into her, he even blew off this other girl he was seeing for a while, he doesnt even communicate with her anymore because hes so into the ow. God she is promising him the world, and i his wife, have nothing to offer, i feel horrible and sad and so useless.........please talk to me...........

Jaycee

Apr 13 - 4AM (Reply to #25)
dudette
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oh jaycee

C'mon honey.... you know that it is all for nothing. This crrep is not capable of seeing people for their real worth.....to him, arses, tits fake or not, plastic or not, no difference... He was still spending last week end being nursed by you.... all about supply in the end you know.... These are not human! have no soul, their logic is alien, not like ours..... Big hugs to you babe, you'll pull through but you HAVE to get real... this is not casanova you are talking about here. Not the catch of the century is it? c'mon you deserve better than to be used and abused by a less of a man creep mindfucker with a small dick like him....
Apr 11 - 3PM
jaycee
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thanks for all the great replies

I understand everything you all are telling me, I understand a normal human being would not treat someone as cruel as he treats me, I guess he is a sociopath, but that fear of him going onto be happy makes me sick inside, why should he be happy when i have suffered so long. you guys get it, it sucks and im so tired of feeling so sad and sooooooo fucking humiliated, and so sick of he utter disrespect of me and his outrageous lies, i want to puke.

Jaycee

Apr 13 - 7PM (Reply to #15)
dazed and seeki...
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jaycee, i COMPLETELY feel you

jaycee, i COMPLETELY feel you on this. It awful to feel that betrayal and to think that there simply is no justice. He gets to prance off into his happy little world w/ no consequences. And he has that OW to give him those material things (including the fake boobs - gross). I have been there, and I return there often because I constantly feel like "this is just so effing unfair!" What he has done has taken such a toll on you, and it is completely normal to feel these things. It's like we understand what everybody is saying, but we have to come to a place of peace within ourselves. Unfortunately this takes time. During that time you will work through rage and anger and humiliation because of all that he has done to you and how he has treated you. But if you sit tight, you will reach a time when you are just tired from these emotions, and you will want to just be quiet and at peace and to figure out how you can pick up the pieces of your life and your self and get better. You will get better and you will be stronger and even more beautiful. You need to heal and separate from this man who is not a man, but a leech. It is outrageous what he has done. It's gross. And nobody deserves to be treated like that. Stick around healthy people because they will keep you grounded and remind you of what is healthy and best for YOU. Take care and sending you love!
Apr 14 - 3AM (Reply to #16)
jaycee
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dazed and seeking

thank you for all you said, i appreciate it. i know that he is not a man, but a blood sucking vampire, a leech and a pos. i know that, but it doesnt comfort me when he is making a life with her and pracing around town with her humiliating me beyond belief, and coming to me when he needs comfort and needs a sucker to take care of him, they only solace, if i am even right, is if he loved her so deeply, why wouldnt he want want her to take care of him, oh, needs his mommy supply..........

Jaycee

Apr 14 - 3AM (Reply to #18)
dudette
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and another thing

The more supply you give him, the more he will despise you for being a sucker! Sorry but true..... You will not ingratiate yourself to him by meeting his needs, quite the contrary. Why undermine yourself in such a way? when all you have to do is... nothing. Nothing at all You don't owe anything to him J Big hugs X
Apr 14 - 4AM (Reply to #19)
jaycee
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dudette

i think he does despise the fact that i meet certain of his needs, i think that is why he is so blatantly cruel to me.....lets just hope he despises his ow for meeting all his material needs and ego boosting, as well.........xoxo

Jaycee

Apr 14 - 4AM (Reply to #20)
dudette
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There is no doubt that he does

he would not treat her like this if he did not.... Ns are not like us. I read a thread from a N once that said : "We despise those who love us and worship those who despise us... the worst thing you can do to us is NC - we would not want to admit it but it kills us to the core....." Does it help?
Apr 14 - 4AM (Reply to #21)
jaycee
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thanks dudette

glad to know there is a high probability that he despises her, as well. as she loves him (supposedly, she may be a narc too) and totally worships him, so i hope she is as despised as I am and I hope that he treats her as cruel as he treats me and all the women along the way for the last 45 years, since birth lol

Jaycee

Apr 14 - 4AM (Reply to #22)
dudette
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he does

I have no doubt that she is currently the woman he despises the most on earth.....
Apr 15 - 4AM (Reply to #23)
jaycee
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no dudette i think i am

no dudette i think i am the woman he most despises on earth right now, he feels i am trying to control him even though hes back at her house, but i dont know if thats projection or what....i do know i just freaked on him when he came to take the garbage out......i just know hes up to something.......and i said just dont go around embarrassing me with her today, he freaked and said i cant do this right now............so i am the one he despises the most...........shes kissing his ass

Jaycee

Apr 14 - 3AM (Reply to #17)
dudette
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Jaycee

you're not his mommy, or his carer, or even his lover... You're jaycee and you have needs of your own, that need to be met equally.... you are a person Jaycee, a real one, not a fake one.... If all his needs were met by OW, he would not be constantly be running back to you like this... Clearly her supply is defective in some way.... so much for the investment in plastic boobs hey....
Apr 11 - 3PM
Deidre40
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I'm going to go out on a limb

I'm going to go out on a limb saying this...BUT. Please know, I speak from my own heart...and feel this is why I have been 'drawn' to narcs. Because I don't value myself enough. I only see myself through the eyes of what someone else thinks of me. Not only narcs. Bosses. Friends. Family. I am getting much better at not letting this be truth, but I know where my weakness with narcs eminates from. And it is from a place...in my childhood. During my formidable years. My dad had died. My mom died a year after him. My sister's husband was verbally abusive. I was a little kid--why did I deserve that? But, I was made to feel bad...like a burden...stupid...lazy. When you hear this from FAMILY...you find it hard that a stranger would think better of you. You have trust issues then, to boot. So, it's EASY to accept such crap from a man...because the role model in my life made me feel bad. For years. I am learning how to break depending on others for validation. Once you do that--you won't be interested in numb skulls like narcs. We have value. We're beautiful...not because a man tells us so. But, because we are God's children. We're smart not because a man tells us so. We're fascinating, not because a man tells us so. It's important to love one's self. For if you can't...you will be drawn to people incapable of love. Sort of a self fulfilling prophecy...cycle. I hope this helps. I will be praying for you!! {[hugs}}
Apr 11 - 3PM (Reply to #13)
Veronrose
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Deidre, you are soooo right.

Deidre, you are soooo right.
Apr 11 - 12PM
onwithmylife
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jaycee

BECAUSE YOU need to get professional therapy for yourself to help you move on and help YOU answer hat great question you asked of us
Apr 11 - 12PM
neverlookback
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NOW THAT IS PROGRESS

Jaycee that is the healthiest question I have heard you ask !!!!! Now you are on your way to recovery. I ask myself that every single damn day of my NC, Why would I want a man that did that to me, you wont find your answer from him but from within yourself. Jaycee there was NOTHING lacking in you that caused this man to cheat on you for 25 years and take up with this OW. But there sure as hell was something lacking in him and always will be. Let me fill you in on a little secret I discovered when I went NC, I dont like to tell my secrets because I worked DAMN hard to gain that knowledge and only YOU can find out yourself. When you look to YOURSELF and focus TOTALLY on yourself to find peace with all this something happens.... you begin to see what a wonderful and great person you have ALWAYS BEEN, it was the disordered that took you to the place you are in now, come on you have to admit HE AINT NORMAL Jaycee, how can you have ORDER in your life when you are dealing with a DISORDERED? Ask yourself that? You loved a disordered person all those years and you think your life will have anything close to peace, contentment? DISORDER is not a thing to have in your life, it ends up destroying your life, when you remove yourself from that disorder and the person that caused it slowly you will see this realization come to you. You still are in a disordered way of thinking, "he never was in love with you all those years and that is why he cheated, and now he is with the woman of his dreams" ????? AND SO IN LOVE? Love does not work that way, love is not instant, love is not only just self gratifying, love consists of thinking and considering the feelings of others and without conscience they do not have the capacity to do that. Is it YOUR fault he has no conscience and is disordered? OF COURSE NOT, them stop blaming yourself for why he did what he did, he did what he did because he is lacking the most important part of what we are made of. He has NOTHING to guide him for respecting the rights and feelings of others, he is completely amoral and completely and TOTALLY without remorse, that my friend is the makings of a sociopath/psychopath, it has NOTHING to do with what you are, what you gave him, how big the other womens boobs were, how pretty they were, how this, how that, how rich they are, or how much you loved him. You loved him because you are NOT like him, and I loved mine because I was ALSO NOT LIKE HIM, THANK GOD!!!! You want order in your life, then stop associating with DISORDERED individuals. x0x0x0x0
Apr 11 - 11AM
ilianna57
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I am at this moment going

I am at this moment going through the exact same feeling. Why do we assume that they are just fine and going on with their life just wonderfully without us? I am thinking its because we know that whatever sentiment they expressed to us at anytime, we arent sure if it was ever true? I think their actions spoke much louder than their words. And that is what does us in.They kept us confused and just hanging...like asome sort of a limbo. I hope this feeling goes away soon
Apr 11 - 12PM (Reply to #9)
Veronrose
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"I am thinking its because we

"I am thinking its because we know that whatever sentiment they expressed to us at anytime, we arent sure if it was ever true? I think their actions spoke much louder than their words. And that is what does us in.They kept us confused and just hanging...like asome sort of a limbo" illianna, I think you are spot on.
Apr 11 - 11AM
jaycee
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this is a living hell

thanks everyone and yes dudette, this is a living hell. its sickening im so distraught, and i hope you are all on the money, and this mean prick is the same to his ow.

Jaycee

Apr 11 - 10AM
candy
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i was convinced we were the

i was convinced we were the perfect couple,and still cant believe he never loved me,because what i felt truly was love for him..... yet i have been abandoned with no closure,and left broken hearted.... yes i was used too ... its sickening to think they can do this to as many woman as they want and theres nothing we can do,they are not breaking any law,and no one can anything to stop them. CANDY XX
Apr 11 - 11AM (Reply to #6)
dudette
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agreed

and he told me so many times that we were the perfect couple too... well, me and probably many others as well... same as you, no closure, never been so heartbroken in all my life.... and yet one must go on and try and put this neverending nightmare out of our minds. but it is hell on earth isn't it?