grossot update (help members!)

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#1 May 18 - 1PM
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grossot update (help members!)

Members - one of us is in trouble!

The courts have told grossot that her exNH and his new woman should have SOLE CUSTODY of her daughter! And she should only have visitation!

The GAL, despite saying that her exNH was a Narc - believes he and the new woman would be better for this little girl! (read grossot's story to see why I am horrified!!)

grossot's attorney's response? "it is what it is"
she lives in an area where her attorney is pretty much the only one around...

ideas??

May 23 - 12PM
grossot
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thank you all

I'm very grateful for your prayers, love, and thoughtfulness. That PAS guy makes me want to hurl. Please pray that I will be granted a continuance in court. The ex H of the gf is willing to testify that she was not a good stepmother to his daughter. He has specific instances he can recall. I know exactly what Kathy Krajo means when she says perverted thinking. This I'd exactly the opposite of what should be happening. http://hubpages.com/hub/Married-to-a-Narcissist?preview nolongercontrolled
May 23 - 4PM (Reply to #36)
Barbara (not verified)
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grossot

you need a NEW LAWYER ASAP!!! one that is NOT part of that boy's club in your area who CARES what people say or think... GET ONE ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 22 - 8PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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he needs killin'

plain and simple......... “I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
May 23 - 11PM (Reply to #33)
TexN (not verified)
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Narcnarc "The Terminator"...

"He needs killin'.... Lol! Kill em all! I agree! They all need to go!
May 25 - 4AM (Reply to #34)
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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EVEN THAT.......

doesn't totally get rid of them.....but it does usually suspend custody and visitation rights...... :) “I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
May 19 - 8AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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i agree with FLEE............

take her to another state..not a LIBERAL ONE...maybe a southern state, where they still revere motherhood.......and file to keep him away from her.... i would take her and leave...before he can do anything to keep your from taking her out of state, then you will have broken no laws.........then once you're in another state...they may not be quite so accomodating to the monster.... “I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
May 22 - 7PM (Reply to #31)
hitandrun
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Leave with your child!!!!

Man, grossot, this is really bad news. I agree with the suggestions of going to a state that revere's motherhood(below the Mason-Dixon line) Check out the resources others have posted. I know first hand our judicial system is f*cked. I interned in family court and saw the most horrible things resolved in chambers...that's why I didn't go to law school. Praying for you and your child. Get a new lawyer. Get out. Much love to you.
May 19 - 12AM
broken23
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few suggestions 1. call a

few suggestions 1. call a attorney in a different state, location get advice 2. file an appeal 3. call judicial chambers, complain about judge abuse of power... 4. worse case you can go to another state with your child, i have no idea how old and file a emergency order. A state which does not otherwise have jurisdiction may enter a temporary emergency order, if the child is in danger and needs immediate protection. After issuing such order, the state court should determine if there is an existing custody order from another state in effect. this will at least buy you time
May 19 - 12AM
Susan32
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Praying for you

We're praying for you, grossot. This is devastating. I hope God helps you in this appalling situation.
May 18 - 6PM
quietude (not verified)
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grossot

*Just bumping up*
May 18 - 4PM
sanctuary
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A couple of other things I

A couple of other things I thought of for grossot.... If they ask why she didn't come forward before she can say she was threatened...I'm sure at some point he's done it. Also GAL's aren't qualified to make decisions when other factors like abuse or psych issues come up. Make sure the GAL knows he/she will be personally responsible for any thing that happens to the daughter or others now that the issue has come to light. None of them like to have that responsibility so that could motivate them to look at things further. grossot, I'm praying for you and your daughter...
May 18 - 3PM
sanctuary
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Barbara...that news just

Barbara...that news just make me sick!!! Is she in the US? and if so where? She needs to call CHILDHELP USA. They specialize in child abuse. They'll have resources specifically for this. They were the ones that recommended the therapist for my daughter. She needs someone specializing in this area, child molestation. They will also tell her she needs to call CPS. or have someone call anonymously. Regardless of what it will look like to others, she needs to protect the child from further damage. I know she probably can't think straight but the more she can document and give to the police or CPS, the better. Did someone do a psych eval and if so on who?
May 18 - 4PM (Reply to #24)
Barbara (not verified)
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what I know is....

a psych eval was done on him and her and the child! they said he was a Narc but that he and the new woman deserved SOLE CUSTODY!! her lawyer & his lawyer are the only 2 lawyers in her area for this!!!!! she's so depressed... ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 18 - 9PM (Reply to #25)
neveragain5
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There is NO excuse for

There is NO excuse for this!!! They KNOW what he is and they still gave him custody?!! My heart goes out to you, grossot.
May 18 - 3PM
gullablegull (not verified)
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Grossot...this sucks!

Wonder if Domestic Violence could be of any assistance? Or Child Advocates? Somewhere near........but not in your town? Did you get to see the psych results? Did you guys have the psych evals? And I'd like to tell the assholes a little something... IF it's not illegal to bathe with your children of opposite sexes in a tub......after age 1, then it damned well should be! He's sick!
May 18 - 2PM
Klarity Belle
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(((((Grossot)))))

So sorry to hear this devastating news. This is unthinkable, please appeal and if possible can you get a new attorney from a neighbouring town perhaps? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran

"That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung

http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

May 18 - 4PM
TexN (not verified)
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She needs to get dd to a licensed therapist

That will testify the inappropriate behavior the child has told her about her father! Tell her to record that SOB & try to get him to admit he's a sick twisted f**k! Oh that makes me so mad!!!
May 18 - 5PM (Reply to #17)
grossot
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im sick

I am just sick. Idk how I even found the strength to email Barbara. Thank u all He's a MONSTER. He talked to the GAL after I did. He's a liar. His hours are NOT flexible. And that shouldn't matter. I refuse to even share her 50/50. Encourage me please http://hubpages.com/hub/Married-to-a-Narcissist?preview nolongercontrolled
May 18 - 10PM (Reply to #20)
Jessika (not verified)
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Grossot

I truly wish there were something I could do to help you. I'm so sorry for your pain. Other than the suggestions of a psychologist who is a fighter AND a lawyer who is also a fighter- IDK what else to add. I will just pray that this changes for you. Jessika
May 18 - 6PM (Reply to #19)
quietude (not verified)
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grossot

Oh you poor sweetie ((((((HUGS!!!)))))) This sucks so bad, WTF is wrong with the system??? Are people insane??? Personally, I like narcnarc's idea...sigh. I wish I had some legal knowledge here, all I can say is to fight them to the end, try to reach out on a national level to find legal help vs. the sorry ass lawyers in your area. There's GOTTA be an alternative to this... ...brainstorming...praying...sending good thoughts dear friend xo
May 18 - 5PM (Reply to #18)
TexN (not verified)
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Please

Let us know if there is anything I can do! How is possible for him to get sole custody, on what grounds??? The mother unless unfit always has the child the most! Please seriously, let me know if i can help you some way...
May 18 - 2PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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DISAPPEAR..........

that's what i'd do.....pull the big Houdini.... “I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
May 18 - 2PM
gullablegull (not verified)
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Geta new attorney!

Appeal! Appeal! In the meantime, get your daughter and get the hell out of there!
May 18 - 2PM (Reply to #2)
RenewD
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Grossot

OMG. That is just SUCH a tragedy. I have no other words, I can't imagine how devastated she must be...this is many of our worst nightmare... Barbara, isn't she on the boards anymore? Why did you update for her?
May 18 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
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grossot

she's so depressed - I don't think she's up for posting right now. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 20 - 12AM (Reply to #11)
wallaby (not verified)
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Barbara

What are you advising her to do? What can we do at this point?
May 22 - 2PM (Reply to #14)
Barbara (not verified)
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about grossot

she needs A NEW LAWYER she keeps trying to work with the idiot she has - in the small area where she lives, the lawyers all go drinking together!! when she filed for divorce she wanted grounds to be ADULTERY - he changed it to IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES... didn't want to deal with the 'messy' adultery. WTF She's going to speak to her lawyer on Monday but repeatedly this moron has screwed her over & over & over SHE MUST GET A NEW LAWYER!! (anyone know a good one in the southwest Ohio/ Appalachia area?) ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 20 - 6AM (Reply to #12)
Barbara (not verified)
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about grossot

since day One I have had a bad feeling about her lawyer. I still do. Unfortunately, he's pretty much it in her area. So I told her - even if she has to drive an hour to GET a new lawyer immediately... ...file an appeal immediately (and file on that Judge for judicial misconduct) ...get a new GAL immediately or leave the state and file an emergency order. she said she has a meeting with her lawyer on Monday. I still seriously doubt that he's going to help her much. Just our support at this time... and prayer ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 20 - 8AM (Reply to #13)
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD...........

can we all come up with a plan to hide her out somewhere????? this seems the best idea to me......once she's GONE and he can't find her...it gives her a bit of an upper hand.... “I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
May 19 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
Healingnow
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run far away

Run far away. Never let anyone take your child that is a mothers worst nightmare. It is unbelievable the way the USA deal with this stuff. Parental alienation, giving custody to child molesters. I've heard it all on the websites. I hope the UK does not ever get near this kind of stuff. UNBELIEVABLE this cannot be for real!