Do they love us, feel pain, miss us?

My response to this question:

I was just thinking about this the other day, my growth in recovery. How I used to cry or get so angry over the Narc stuff and now for the most part the emotional part is gone.

We all want to know if they feel, hurt, love. I get asked this question more than any other question. I suppose no one wants to feel as though they gave their soul to the devil or their soul to someone who was using them for supply and never cared. The notion that it was all a game and pretend, is more than most rational feeling people can take in the beginning. The beginning of recovery is filled with these questions and even as time goes by and we are completely educated on these disorders; there still remains from time to time those occasion lingering thoughts. Did he feel anything? Did he care at all?

The way my Narc described it was that he loved me, wanted to spend his life with me and never leave me. But.....he had some kind of a chemical imbalance since he was a child where even though he had the thoughts and the notion of all of that he was incapable of showing it in ways that others do. That he is damaged goods and cannot show or emotionally tell what the appropriate responses and demonstrations would be in a loving relationship, so basically the other person would have to just know this, accept this, and go with it because that is who and what he is.

I said to him: OMG you just perfectly described a Narc and he said yes, I guess that is what it is. I don't doubt that they KNOW they are different and that things do not work out the same for them as they do for other people, but they have no way of fixing this and what they give to us is the best they have to give. The only way they can function is to pretend that they feel so that we won't leave them and when we find out the truth they freak out and abuse us because they get so angry because they don't have any way to change the way they are and they sincerely don't relate to what we are complaining about because they don't feel it, they just think it and get angry and afraid of being alone, so they will do or say anything to keep us on the hook to avoid the void of having no supply. I believe it is more the void which disturbs them than the feelings of love, loyalty, and commitment. They don't have that because it is all about them and we represent supply.

So from all of this and looking at all the other narcs, it looks to me like they have the notion of pain, love, and emotions; they just don't FEEL them like we do. So he may have the notion of pain over you and missing you, he just lacks the feeling of it. Sounds like a horrible way to live to me and at this point, I mostly feel pity for them and I have a strong sense of wanting to protect myself and others from the damage of them.

It took me well over a year to finally get, that they don't feel and it is no reflection on who I am and honestly, I think they love us the best they can which of course is not enough.

God bless,
Goldie

Aug 4 - 11AM
OneoftheEXs
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Sometimes it is hard to accept this fact.....

It took me a long time to accept that he is a Narc. I have read books and blogs and Lisa's site has tremendously helped me in understanding him. I think in the back of my mind I still do not want to believe this is true about him, we have a precious child together you see, and it breaks my heart to think my child's father is this. He had asked for marriage and for us to move in together (we were in a Long distance relationship) but I was waiting for things to feel right... but they never did. they almost, but never quite, and then the blow of revelation of yet another woman, a very cheap one in fact, finally that did it for me so I left him. It is hard to accept that it was not love, because I felt loved at times, that's why I still think about him. But the things that was said here about who the Narc is undeniably him, some of the stories of the women who had been with Narcs looked like I wrote it because stories were almost identical. I'm doing everything I can to give the kind of real love to my daughter that her father may not be able to. I ask for your prayers that I may everyday find the strength to do this alone.
Aug 4 - 2PM (Reply to #1)
Goldie
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This is the most difficult aspect of the disorder to accept

I understand what you are saying. I had a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that they are not capable of love. That they don't feel the same emotions we do. I think this contributes to why we often go back. I raised my son alone, his father is a Narc as well and he was not a good father to our son. You are the one who was feeling all those loving feeling and no one can take that away from you. That you loved him and your daughter is real. It is them who are not real. We are loving mother's and I am sure your daughter will always feel your love. I will keep you in my prayers. God bless, Goldie