The What-Ifs

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#1 Apr 13 - 4PM
StudentOfLife
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The What-Ifs

Has anyone else gone through the "what-ifs" after making your decision to leave the relationship behind you and stay no contact?? I've been going through this quite a lot lately. "What if he really loves me?" What if it could really work? (after all every relationship has hardships)" "What if I am making a huge mistake?"

It doesn't help that I'm being hoovered big time (well, allowing myself to be i s'pose). It doesn't help that the good times were sooooooooo intensely good! ~ the bad times though --- have been horrendous!!

I've been reading recently on this board i think about something called "Cognitive Dissonance" and boy does this ever make sense to me!! Our brains try to resolve two conflicting beliefs -- will the real BS please stand up?! Is this Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde? Why am i now doubting myself and HOW DO I STOP???

Has anyone else gone through this?

Apr 14 - 3AM
jaycee
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student of life

the would if's are the story of my life, trust me, it wouldnt matter, would of, could of, should of, what if, all bullshit, they will do what they want to do......i have to stop regretting throwing him out.....if have to accept reality, he wants what he wants, and d and d me contantly in the past twenty five years............

Jaycee

Apr 13 - 8PM
MandyM
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I was the QUEEN of cognitive

I was the QUEEN of cognitive dissonance (experiencing it, I mean, not causing it!). I still am sometimes. It takes a long time to work through.
Apr 13 - 7PM
Luci
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going through it now

I am doing the same thing cause he is hoovering which makes it really hard. But I just keep remembering that it is just hoovering. Knowledge IS power. Stay strong and keep saying no.
Apr 13 - 6PM
dazed and seeki...
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I am going through this very

I am going through this very thing right now. I just posted something along the lines of "what if he loves me" and then I just got another email from him saying that he loves me sooo much. The only thing that I can say to explain the anxiety it is causing in me IS cognitive dissonance. If his past actions and history weren't so bad, I'd just go back to him and believe his words. But wanting to believe his sweet words and KNOWING what i know - to me that is where the cognitive dissonance lies. It also lies in myself - if I went back to him, I know that I would once again be going against my gut feelings. I feel a tremendous pull towards him while he is hoovering.His persistence is really starting to get to me. I am sitting tight - thank god for my therapist. I always use her as a marker - I always say wait until my next meeting to see what she says. It helps for me to walk through what Im thinking with her. At the same time, what I want to do is not matching up with what I now know is bad for me - so cognitive dissonance is definitely causing a lot of tension inside of me. I definitely am wrought with the "what ifs" - all the time now because he is hoovering. Even though I am not responding, I am still allowing his messages to get to me because I still can't help but read his emails.
Apr 13 - 5PM
Steph
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Ah yea, the what if's and the

Ah yea, the what if's and the cognitive dissonance involved in abusive relationships. We've all been there, I think. Yes, every relationship goes through hardships.....but not every relationship involves abuse...emotional or physical. That is beyond a hardship...that is TOXIC. I don't know what the details of your relationship are... what lead you here, to this site on narcissism? I'm guessing, since you are here, you were in a toxic relationship with an abuser, a personality disorder of some sort? Are you second guessing that he is disordered? I don't know how to comment fully, because I don't know where you are at....
Apr 13 - 6PM
Epiphany
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I think we all do

I think we all ask ourselves that question. It was that question between darkness and light for me. It's what made it so hard to block his number, cancel our email account and go NC. It's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Because what if he tries to send me that "I miss you text" that has worked for him for so long? Well he'll get the message he sent to me so many times. It took weighing the truth and the illusion for me. Sure he could be a good boy and we had laughs and felt comfortable together but it got to the point where I was thinking "what if I say how I'm really feeling because I'm feeling used and manipulated". What if turned into I'm saying and I'm saying did not make him happy. What if he can be fixed? Well he can't. I tried to convince myself over and over, over the course of 3 years of hell that he was elevating his history each time we got back together. He was trying harder or doing things different. Truth is he was reading off my signs. Signs that I was less tolerant to accept his excuses, his bullshit and his manipulation so he was trying to play a different card but for the very same reason. To keep me in the hook and gleen what he could from me. Oh sure, a little more work for him but same result. I'd stay stuck and in constant supply. I think the biggest what if for my XN is what if people find out what kind of monster he really is or even think he is? I know for certain it's the one thing that made him sweat, being exposed. I relish the idea that he might be here reading because this MF will know that a lot of other people now know the sick abuse of his that I lived through and survived. There is no love for him here. Ask yourself what if you'd stayed. I do. It's like cleaning your closet. What IF I ever need this shirt again? I literally have garbage bags laying about my house now. That shirt made me feel like shit whenever I wore it and I don't want to wear it again, poof it goes in the bag. Getting dressed in the morning, trying on different things and just having that yuck feeling. I toss it in the bag. When they're full they're off to Sal or Good Will. I'm never going to like I how feel in that shirt, don't know why I bought it in the first place. See ya. Makes finding the things I do like in my closet, the ones that make me feel good about me, so much easier to find.
Apr 13 - 4PM
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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I went through the "what-ifs"

I went through the "what-ifs" of how I could have done things differently to prevent the final big D & D, before accepting that it wasn't me and there was nothing I could have done. I still struggle with acceptance I suppose. Knowing it and accepting it are two different things. In my case, I really wasn't given a choice. He dumped me overnight and moved on to his new GF, who is an old GF of 25 years ago. I really think if that hadn't happened, I'd still be doing the dance with him and going through more Hell, but only prolonging the inevitable. I wouldn't have been researching this stuff and found this board if I were still with him. But I know it was just a matter of time because he was already seeking/lining up new supply when the old GF re-entered his life.
Apr 14 - 1AM (Reply to #8)
dudette
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OMG smitten

That is so absolutely my story too... So what If I had accepted to be pitted against other women? What if I had taken on the fight for his love as he clearly wanted me to do? What if I had kept the baby? He would still lie and cheat as he does to her now He would have abandoned me anyway I would have a new born baby right now, and no support to raise him/her with I would have probably lost my job I might think that I am "the one" but I would not be. I would just be the "one who makes him look normal". Behind closed doors, I would be experiencing his cruelty first hand.... what if? well no thanks. Unhappy as I am, the alternative does not bear thinking about.....
Apr 13 - 5PM (Reply to #7)
StudentOfLife
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Why wo we blame ourselves?

Maybe we take on so much responsibility because we are the ones who actually cared about the relationship so much we poured our hearts and souls into it for so long. While they seem to have icy cold hearts. Why are we so hard on ourselves?
Apr 13 - 4PM
StudentOfLife
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cognitive dissonance?!

for example some of the most recent happenings.... I've experienced ongoing pain since november due to a bite he inflicted extremely hard and extremely long on my neck (no, it was not during a moment of pleasure!) On a scale of 1 -10 it was initially an eleven. He just leaned over and bit me (this was during one of those times i had been standing up for myself, like he had to show me who was boss). Ever since the pain has ranged between 4 & 9. Yesterday i finally went to the doc who said the muscle and major nerve were damaged. When i told my N he said after a pause " i am really sorry you have to go through this" ( i thought, guess that's the closest thing to owning up i will get, let alone an apology. Now, at the same time this is going on, he has been piling on the nice guy talk, feigning once again shared interests (like spirituality and such)... in a BIG way!! Yet, at the same time too he says things that are insulting like telling me he is sooooooo much better than me at handling finances, and why can't i manage my money, he will do me a favor and look at my finances with me. ---(we have been over this a thousand times, no , no , no. I have told him no thank you.) He is a long time bachelor who had won a lawsuit that put him ahead financially, i am a single mom of three boys completely handling my own budget -- i have been doing fine at it. But he's always insisting on finding ways to cut me down. The nice guy routine vs. the overt abuse vs. the stealth abuse = how do ya know what is real?! And knowing what i know -- why is it STILL so hard to break free?! (sorry if this is not making sense. my thoughts are just really jumbled right now.)
Apr 13 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
onwithmylife
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student of life

did you go with some vampire, nut case,what normal person would do that?NONE
Apr 13 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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Run for your life!

After reading that, I can't stress that enough! Biting you? This is unacceptable to say the least and unforgivable! This sounds like a really dangerous guy and someone who obviously has no control over his impulses and anger. The human mouth has more bacteria in it than just about anything and you're lucky you didn't get Sepsis and die. Years ago, my friend's abusive husband bit a cop on the hand when he was trying to arrest him. He was then charged with assault with a deadly weapon (his mouth/teeth) in addition to a bunch of other charges, because the cop could have gotten gang-green and lost his hand. It's bad enough he damaged the muscle and nerve. Sorry, but he sounds more like a Psychopath than "just" a Narc, as if that isn't bad enough. The other stuff he is TELLING you, you WANT to believe so you can get back to the beginning of the relationship when he was Prince Charming. Pay attention to what he is actually DOING to you - PHYSICALLY ABUSING YOU in addition to the emotional and psychological abuse. I can't emphasize this enough. Get a RO if you have to and get away from him! If not for yourself, for your 3 boys!
Apr 13 - 4PM
momoya
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Raising Hand

Yes, I played what if's. I was oddly fascinated in how he was able to decieve me so well. It took me a long time to really accept the truth. I was in disbelief. The CD is messed up and coming to terms with the real him is really unpleasant. You have to read up on it, they can easily get into our heads and take up residence long after they are gone. He is still with me, he is still there at times in my mind like a silent movie. I still have not forgotten him. And I wonder if coming here to this site keeps his memory alive?

momoya

Apr 13 - 4PM (Reply to #2)
StudentOfLife
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Thanks Momoya

I will definitely read up on it more, and i think I am going to look into some counseling. (altho i don't know when i will find time with work and kids, lol ) It's not fair that they can own so much real estate in our heads when it is probably not reciprocated the same way.