Prank Him

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#1 Jun 20 - 11AM
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Prank Him

Sam Vaknin, notorious N, who describes the narc's emotional and mental processes says that the only way to effect a narc, is to get to his vulnerability, to disempower him/her.

My narc lives online. I mean he's just camped out there all the time, where he plays the role of bon vivant, wise brilliant super witty man. I've watched other MEN become infatuated, with him--and that's heterosexual men with major man crushes.

His modus operandi, I am figuring out in hind sight, is to have a limited long term relationship with a woman in physical space and romance her for months online. After she's hooked and has left her husband, he dumps her. I'm not sure about this, as I have no corroborating reports on him, but if I'm any example....this is what he does.

Fortunately, my husband and I managed to stay together throughout this 18 month nightmare. During that same time frame, my mother and father both died, under tragic circumstances and my husband had a heart attack. Instead of backing away and making his true intentions known, the narc redoubled his efforts to have me bond even more tightly with him. After husband and I decided to split up and were discussing the divvying up of assets, this basta** dumped me. He simply vanished. No fights, no angry words, just a quiet acknowledgment that he had reached his goal and was done.

I was moving firmly into indifference a couple of months ago, letting him go but I had this niggling inner voice saying, "Don't do it, don't do it. This man emotionally raped you and it was violent as hell, torture. DON'T let him walk without paying a penalty. YOU can do it, you're up to the task and you can have fun doing it too!"

I wouldn't recommend those who aren't near indifference do this as you have to approach it with a clear mind, from a detached perspective. Justice or revenge is best served cold.

Also, you MUST find a way to do this that enhances your life, somehow...makes you laugh, etc.

Philosophically, I am opposed to letting people off the hook after they have engaged in acts that are clearly criminal in nature, even if the justice system is ill equiped to define the acts or deal with them through litigation.

I've had a really positive exchange with Allthatglitters about this. She brought up some very good points that counter my logic, but accepts the idea that every case is different and everybody is different. I appreciate the time she took and agree with her for the most part.

Pranking isn't for those who are still numb, in pain. I am acting partly on principal and it's also a creative exercise for me. I no longer feel any love for this man, nor do I feel hatred, just disgust.

The narc going to rue the day he targeted me. His ego is going to be bashed to a pulp by the time I'm through with him and he's not even going to know it's me responsible for it.

Anyway...that's what I'm doing. If anyone out there has any ideas they want to vet through the forum, this is a good thread to do it on.

Jun 20 - 4PM
Susan32
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Punk'd

The ex-Psych prof's Achilles heel was his FEAR OF BEING MOCKED. I've never known ANYONE who was so damn paranoid about people laughing at him to his face or behind his back. I played a minor prank on him my sophomore year (a freshman&I pretended to be cousins)-we kept it going for awhile... and when the BIG REVEAL came, he was humiliated. At my college, the senior skit parodies the professors. The ex-P faithfully attended every year... but was afraid that one day he'd be mocked. He'd breathe a sigh of relief when it ridiculed his colleagues... but not him. With the final D&D, EVERYTHING changed. The closing scene of the senior skit mocked him. He had been drinking a bottle of beer. He was towards the front; he got up... and RAN OUT. Don't worry, I did an instant recap the next day. When I broke NC in '09, it was a prank of sorts. I mockingly compared the ex-P to my nephew (my brother in-law&the ex-P's father have the same name, BOTH went to Harvard)... and basically said my baby nephew was MORE mature than him. Yes, it was a prank. I drove to the UPS Store laughing. The only regrets I have is that Ashton Kutcher's "Punk'd" along with MySpace/Facebook/YouTube didn't exist for pranking. If ANYONE deserves to have Rebecca Black's annoying "Friday" on their voice mail, it's the ex-P. After all, he HATES music and that song drives ME crazy. I did it... and had FUN doing it.
Jun 20 - 2PM
dudette
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I can tell you...

that my N/P father confessed to doing the same thing to a lot of women.... He told me because of my N story. I travelled thousands of miles to vietnam to spend time with him and was hoping for words of comfort, and all I got was his boasting of how my N was a Small Player in his mind....and being exposed to his hareem of girlfriends. My dad has a beautiful wife and kids in France...I was in utter shock.... I can tell you that he received threats from husbands, complaints against him at work, complaints made to his wife, the bottom line is that he always managed to turn it around on the victim, or lie his way out of it, ot ignore it altogether... What he did not do was care. To this day he cannot see what the problem is or feel any shame or remorse. his words of comfort to me were,"well of you have to fuck other people, by all means do but do not fall in love with them" then he said I should not worry about my husband who was probably cheating on me as well.... not exactly what I was expecting - but I can tell you that it revealed a lot about N/P thinking. My dad is 65 and not getting better.... I have gone NC with him too and in many ways, his words, his callous detachment, his ccmplete lack of conscience keeps me NC from my N every day... I would suggest that you reconsider.... but in any case, good luck x
Jun 20 - 2PM (Reply to #15)
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Dudette, The purpose of a

Dudette, The purpose of a prank is to humiliate the narc. It's the only thing they understand. Most people go off on them in a rage, complain, scream, yell...It's all supply. Negative, positive...it doesn't matter, as long as it's attention. The overt narcs get off on it and it slides off their backs. The covert narc will stand by, tsk tsk tsk and respond passively; the victim's punishment justified, in their minds, by THEIR aggressive behaviour towards narc. Sorry your dad is such a creep. That's just sad. My father had narc tedencies, very strong ones, but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as your's. Tragic for all involved, particularly you.
Jun 20 - 12PM
girlsinger
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encylopedia

Hi there wow I always really appreciate reading your posts but this one,... Im not certian every little voice needs a reply and an hour a day..are you certian you want to bank that kind of karma? what about cause and effect? perhaps it is time to get indifferent life can get really complicated, as you know so well please be sure that you are up for the fallout perhaps its time to cut the cord, be greatful for what remains you are way too precious for me not to at least reach out to you, .please...think again be blessed K
Jun 20 - 1PM (Reply to #13)
Done sourcing
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Staying in the insane life of

Staying in the insane life of the narc kept me insane and in stasis, I don't like that feeling, and when tempted to return I just need to ask myself what is in it for me. Bad habits are hard to break, and that is why nc is so very important to do. It is a healthy step, and I can come here and vent and puke and cry and groan and ruminate and grunt and kick and scream, and then get on with my day. I am free today, was free yesterday and the day before, life is what I make it, and I don't want to live in her insanity one more moment, period!
Jun 20 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
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Thanks so much for your care

Thanks so much for your care and concern, Girl Singer, Goldie and all the others who answered this post. I appreciate your points of view. For most run of the mill narcs,the strategy outlined in the 6 steps is the way to go. From all of the reading I've done here, though, I've come to the conclusion that I am dealing with a slightly different kind of narc. Mine is astonishingly covert and has the self image of "a wonderful man". Even if he were to find out the all encompassing prank radiated from me, he wouldn't retaliate. He's also not in any position to do so as it wouldn't jive with his idea of himself. He lives thousands of miles away, in a different country. He is very limited in what he can do. A practical joke, a prank that is humiliating to someone who can only feel emotional pain through their ego, isn't a bad idea, though every narc is different. That's karma and it's his, not mine. There is no way the universe could have arranged, so beautifully, what I have planned for him. It will be instructive. He will be demoralized and likely never hurt another woman like he hurt me again. As it stands now, he was remarkably successful harvesting supply from me for a year and a half. He will do the same with other women and could leave suicides in his wake. I really can't tolerate this thought. This man is a master at exploiting vulnerable women, and as he always presents as a super loving, supportive presence, there is absolutely no warning. The shock damned near killed me. Really. I am lucky to be alive.
Jun 20 - 12PM
rosedewittbukater
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Tempting

This was tempting for me. I just could not bring myself to do it. I entertained the thought of creating a fake profile on the dating site she is on and subsequently "stringing her along" but in the end couldn't go through with it. Probably because I still love her, and was afraid of being found out and what the consequences might be. Also, I felt this was just another way of breaking NC which would prolong my pain and sabotage my recovery. If you think it will help you in your recovery then I suppose there is no harm in it. Sometimes completely ignoring them is the best way of disempowering them. I'm just sayin'.
Jun 20 - 1PM (Reply to #10)
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If you still love her, I

If you still love her, I wouldn't recommend it. It would just give you a really sick feeling and humiliation wouldn't necessarily encourage her to reflect on her actions anyway. Also, a person has to be very sure that what they are doing will be in some way positive for themselves and the narc. My narc is going to realize that purposeful sadism is ungood, regardless of the fact that none of his social circle is aware of his actions. I can't let this behaviour go unchecked.
Jun 20 - 12PM (Reply to #9)
wacaet
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I thought about doing this,

I thought about doing this, and also even asking someone here to do it. But, really, in the long run, it's much better for my emotional health to just let it go.
Jun 20 - 11AM
Goldie
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I would be very leery

Regarding posting anything incriminating towards yourselves on an open forum. I am sure many have done plenty over the years, God knows they deserve it. This is about protecting ourselves now and it is NEVER a good idea to post in writing anything you may have done which could come back to haunt you. Please just be mindful when responding to this type of post and as much as I would LOVE to hear the stories and would surely get a chuckle out of them, watch what you say. Also, they get theirs anyway, in spades without our having to lift a finger. I can tell you stories about that: My X, son's father from years ago, after he dumped me while pregnant, had a fluke situation where a man was released from prison and he came to my X's house and threatened him. Next thing you know, my X shoots him in the foot, in front of the OW and gets charged with attempted murder and it was in all the newspapers. I have to admit, I started laughing out loud when I read that one. Another XN who was a dirt bag, got busted for Pot and was humiliated in his government job. This last XN, is a complete mess and it would not surprise me in the least if he does not wind up in serious trouble for what he is up to and he will do this all by himself, without any assistance from me. So there you go, they cook their own goose in more ways than one. Plus, as Sam also says, NC pisses them off more than anything else. They hate hate hate to be ignored. God bless, Goldie
Jun 20 - 11AM
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WHAT DOES PRANKING MEAN?

WHAT DOES PRANKING MEAN? NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE.
Jun 20 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
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A prank is a practical joke

A prank is a practical joke and is the achille's heel of a narc as they can be humiliating, which is an ego reaction. The only way you can actually damage a narc to the point they might just reflect on their behaviour is through their ego. It's true that time heals all wounds and as many have pointed out here time also wounds all heels. However I am going to give the healing and wounding features of time a power assist.
Jun 20 - 11AM
Arwen
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so did you prank him?

so did you prank him?
Jun 20 - 11AM (Reply to #2)
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It's in process. I am

It's in process. I am spending an hour a day on it and will wrap it up by the end of the summer. Allthatglitters made me realize that I have to limit the time frame for my own sake. I was going to stretch it out over a year, but that would be eating into my time and energy too much. I can accomplish just as much over a period of 2 months. And btw, after reading about your psychopathic narc, I would NOT recommend you ever do anything of this nature, EVER. Mine is a cowardly wimp, who once referred to a jay walking ticket as a "serious brush with the law". Hahaha. So happy to read in other thread that you're moving on, feeling better. I was kind of worried about you for awhile there! Hugs--ER
Jun 20 - 12PM (Reply to #3)
Arwen
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enpsych I have no intention

enpsych I have no intention of pranking...i am way too scared of him. It also defeats the purpose of me getting my mind on to new and better things. I don't want anything drawing me back into him and his dark world. Light and love PG
Jun 20 - 1PM (Reply to #4)
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YOur strategy works for you

YOur strategy works for you and is the best considering what I've read about your narc. I think everyone should be respected for their unique approach. It's also important to draw a distinction between a philosophical response to evil and a purely emotional one. Reacting on emotion while still feeling attached is not the way to go. I have studied my own situation and the narc from every conceivable angle and think this is the way to proceed It certainly keeps me tethered to the freak, to some degree but it's not a love bond, it's a a yuk bond. I have to tell you though, it is one heck of a lot of fun and every minute I spend on it, is spent laughing. My husband appreciates, given my family background, and my own particular issues, that this is an important exercise for me. Both he m and my therapist particularly, have been very encouraging.