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#1 Jun 24 - 10PM
enoughalready
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fantasy love

Have you ever loved anyone more than you loved your XN? I have never felt love like that. The love you see on "The Notebook" or any love story. The feeling is amazing, incredible and unforgettable. Even though my XN never loved me like that and fooled me into thinking he loved me- I truly believe I will never love like that again. After all, it was a fantasy. Or was it true love on my part? Whatever it was- I will never believe in true love not after this experience! it's better kept in books and in movies.

Jun 25 - 11AM
Allie
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I can't even watch this movie anymore...

It was my favorite, then he said it was "our story"...I thought that was so romantic at the time, and we did meet each other in our teens and "fell in love" blah, blah, blah :). After he started to D&D me I slowly woke up. He is No Noah, after all Noah didn't date rape Allie, and Noah wasn't a psychopath who had numerous extramarital affairs, and wanted to have another one with his high school sweetheart 25 + years later. He also saw himself as Brad Pitt's character "Tristan" in Legends of the Fall...he told me in more than one email as he was trying to lure me into a physical affair with him that unless I gave into my desires, I would "always be Susannah". Susannah is the character who kills herself in the end because she can never be with Tristan, the man she really loves. He would quote that movie alot...saying he was "the rock everyone broke themselves against" what a f*cking idiot. He was as good looking as Brad Pitt, but truly the most evil, empty "human" I've ever met. He also "ordered" me to pick up the book "conversations with God" by Neale Walsch, he said it would "enlighten" me. He claimed he didn't believe in a God that would punish you for sin, that there was no hell...etc. I saw this for exactly how he meant it, he can screw around and disrespect his wife with no guilt. Which he said many times. Thats when I began to think, he is NOT just a narcissist, he is a psychopath. No conscience, and no guilt, as he bragged to me about the 3 or 4 (I lost track) prior affairs, he told me "and she will NEVER find out" and if he had been standing in front of me, I bet I would have seen a satisfied smile on his lips. His wife is a hospice nurse, you can't make this sh*t up. No, I will never be able to watch the Notebook again, he ruined that for me.
Jun 25 - 11AM (Reply to #15)
TNR1
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Mr. N actually asked me if I

Mr. N actually asked me if I ever had anyone say they would kill themself for me...apparrantly he had. I question whether what I felt for Mr. N was "love" or simply tons of lust with an incredible amount of addiction thrown in. It surely felt like love and I still struggle with wanting desperately to contact him and just have "one more night". But then I remember...this is a man who had called me a "trophy" during our D&D call. He never ever really wanted me. All he wanted was sex on his terms, whenever he wanted it, however he wanted it. The rest..the endearing terms and discussions of a future were only to ensure that I was still there at his beck and call.
Jun 25 - 11AM (Reply to #16)
Allie
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I really think N's get off on that...

that they can twist us inside, and have such an effect on us..so much so that we could actually think about ending our lives. I never felt that desperately low, thank God, but I can understand how someone could feel that way after the narcissist is "done" with them. N's want their supply, one way or another, some reaction that will give them their fix. I know now I never loved my N, because I never really KNEW him. But at one time it sure felt like love, and so much lust. Thats where we picked up all these years later, the fantasy part was REAL big for me, he was a fantasy, but when I would talk to him (email) I would feel sickened by him. He is nobody's idea of a fantasy, other than a handsome exterior, which I'm sure is not even that handsome anymore anyway ;),since the pics he would send of himself were always 3-4 years old, lol
Jun 25 - 8AM
baddream
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"The Notebook"

Funny you mention this movie, because my N had this video and would watch it with me over and over again as if memorizing it to learn how someone should act when they are in love! He had lots of movies and when he watched them he studied the actors in this very intense manner. Sometimes when I would be with him in different setting his expressions would actually mimic some of these actors-- as if he really didn't know how to react properly. I always knew he was an actor in his own drama and I was co-star. Sometimes as his "lover" I felt I was playing a role and fulfilling expectations -- he was always very clear what those were.
Jun 25 - 8AM (Reply to #13)
GIJ
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Speaking of actors

Mine actually writes out scripts of what to say! To 'partners", 'Friends", "Family" for a variety of circumstances. Sadly, he teaches others to do the same (because he assumes he knows everything). The theory is that all arguments are about the same things, so rather than react with "emotion", it is better to prepare in advance to diffuse the arguments. Sounds a bit logical on the surface....but then again, they are all about logic (albeit very strange and effed up) rather than emotion. Now I see why - he has no ability to feel so he needs to rehearse what to say. He has no real character of his own so he makes them up to be what each person wants or needs. He can't tolerate the emotions of others so why not deaden the interaction?
Jun 25 - 8AM (Reply to #12)
passionatebutterfly
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OMG!!!! This is too funny!

OMG!!!! This is too funny! My exN always compared our lives with the characters in The Notebook!!! We were Noah and Allie according to him! Yup!! Total fantasy and he had me believing it. In fact we read the book together. Also Nights in Rodanthe, Last of the Mohicans, and Bridges of Madison County along with some other books we read together. He also said that 2 characters from the Robert Parker books reminded him of us, Spenser and Susan. Always quoted movies and songs......oh how funny that this was brought up! LOL Jennyxoxo
Jun 25 - 6AM
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Have been in love 3 times

Have been in love 3 times with lovely men, two of which I'm still in contact and it's over 20 years later and one who has become my closest friend. I'm 44 now. I don't count the exN at all, don't give a stuff about him, can't even remember the so called good times, they were so fleeting compared to the horrendous stuff, but I was with him 8 years 7 of which were dreadful looking back. Yuk, had much better sex with other blokes too and since him, once I'd been deprogrammed from thinking it was great.

Ending the dance

Jun 25 - 3AM
Scoop
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I have felt love like that

I have felt love like that before .When i was 21 my first love and when i was 30 my second love .Will i put him down as my third love? .. yes i guess but i know there is a 4th out there and he will be ten times a better man than him ..Girlfriends dont give up on love , there are 3 billion men out there and although its hard to believe it now most of them dont have personality disorders (granted most of them need lots of work done on them to get them up to scratch ..but as women we have always known that lol) We where unlucky to come across psycopaths , and the chances of anyone of us ending up with another one is very slim now we know the red flags .. i just wished all our young people where schooled in personality disorders , its up to women like us to go foward and educate
Jun 25 - 8AM (Reply to #8)
hitandrun
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Me either

I've been in love before but not like with the Disordered One...it was all consuming, the best sex, intimate...everything I wanted. Unfortunately it was not real. So I do not know if you ever love like that again, or if love is even supposed to be like what we experinced with the pathological pricks.
Jun 25 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
GIJ
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I love starting the day with a chuckle

"Pathological Prick." Love it Maybe you can make a quickie tombstone for your service "RIP PP"
Jun 24 - 11PM
betty2020
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I was thinking about this

I was thinking about this today. When i was with him i thought what i was feeling was an undying love for him. My heart would ache when i sensed that his feelings were indifferent for me. Looking back now, i think this was part of the mind manipulation to make me think this was real love. He would give just enough affections to give me hope then pull away leave me waiting and wanting him more. Like a challenge i had to conquer. Never really knowing if i was worthy enough to have him. I thought this was real love. Yes i believe i was just mind fucked. Here is the reality; He is really no great catch and if he were a real normal guy? I probable would have never given him a chance.

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Jun 25 - 8AM (Reply to #6)
baddream
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Yes, exactly.

I know this feeling very well betty2020. The so called "love" with N or "ache" as you call it felt like an emptiness for something that I kept hoping I would get from him. He would give, and then take away. You are right-- it was total mind manipulation. I kept going back to get VALIDATION that it was real. I knew in my guts all along that this was not how love should be.
Jun 24 - 11PM
betty2020
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I was thinking about this

I was thinking about this today. When i was with him i thought what i was feeling was an undying love for him. My heart would ache when i sensed that his feelings were indifferent for me. Looking back now, i think this was part of the mind manipulation to make me think this was real love. He would give just enough affections to give me hope then pull away leave me waiting and wanting him more. Like a challenge i had to conquer. Never really knowing if i was worthy enough to have him. I thought this was real love. Yes i believe i was just mind fucked. Here is the reality; He is really no great catch and if he were a real normal guy? I probable would have never given him a chance.

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Jun 24 - 11PM
Steph
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I hope I never "love" like

I hope I never "love" like that again because that kind of "loving" meant sacrificing my own well-being, being manipulated, mistreated, disrespected, etc. I don't believe it represented true love at all.....even if we we felt that at the time. We were tricked into falling for a fake person who showed fake love.
Jun 24 - 11PM
loveofmylife
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Me too

I have never felt love like this - very intense, accepting, supportive, intimate, ...the main person in my life that I could always count on.... it felt so real and so deep. Fell hard for him. And I felt like he loved me just the same. No one has ever made me feel more loved and special and beautiful and wanted, etc. etc, etc. And it has maintained the same intensity for 20 years...it never faded...until of course D&D. So, like you, I feel like it was true love for me. I accepted him unconditionally and would do anything for him. Always wanted the best for him...etc. And like you, I feel like I will never believe in true love again. How could I have been so duped??? And it scares me reading WWLP - how she says everyone has this "soulmate" feeling. Does it mean that there is no such thing as a true soulmate - that is scary to me. This was a great question!
Jun 24 - 10PM
smileyfacepr
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I feel

the same exact way, he made me feel he loved me just as much as I did him..obviously not..and I have lost the belief in true love.. and I was a huge romantic but I know my love for him was real and sincere, my feelings were very real and I dont think Ill ever love anyone the wild and passionate way I loved him EVER!!! He killed it all for me!!

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