OMG Help me Emergency!!!!!!!

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#1 Sep 26 - 9AM
helldweller
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OMG Help me Emergency!!!!!!!

I just opened up facebook. I have no one on their connected to the narc except his brother's girlfriend, who I forgot to delete. So staring me in the face is a "family photo" of the narc and his kid and his brothers at THE CHILD'S BAPTISM YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!!! I am shaking all over. I have tried to get him to have the child baptized from day one. I talked to our church, got all the paperwork, jumped through all sorts of hoops to allow him to go to sunday school before baptism, talked to the narc about it forever. I am very religious, and the narc has not been to church in twenty years; nor nave his brothers. The baptism was at the girlfriend's church in the suburbs. I just threw up. The worst thing is that it was obviously planned while the narc thought we were still together. Yet another thing he was going to do behind my back that meant the sun and the moon to me and nothing to him. Jesus H. Christ, it never ends!!!!!!!!! God help me; how am I going to control myself?! I was just congratulating myself for feeling better today, for feeling stronger.

Sep 28 - 8PM
helldweller
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I don't think this is what I'm supposed to be doing but

It really is war here with one house between us and our kids in the same school at the end of the block. This morning I walked the girls to school through the alley and came back the same way, and just of course happened to come 'round the front of the house when the narc was walking home. We looked at each other and he said, "Can I come in?" I was so shocked that he spoke to me. I should have just gone in but I said, "No. never again." He said, "Why? I love you." I said, "Then why not send me ten dozen roses like you sent to your fiancee after you screwed her over?" He said, "Yes or no? I really want you. I want to kiss you." I went inside. This afternoon, when I went to pick up my daughters, I saw him walking behind me and hanging back so he wouldn't be seen with me. I went around the playlot and then came back 'round after he was with the other parents. I went up to him and hugged and kissed him and he said, "Ok. Honey. Not in front of people." And I said, not loud enough for anyone to hear, "Do you want to come over after school and I'll lick your ass?" His face got all sweaty and he started rolling his eyes and breathing hard going "Oh my God. Not here." I just kept saying suggestive things, asking him why he was uncomfortable when he'd had no problem asking me to have sex in front of my house, asking him why he didn't want me anymore, touching him, stroking his face, etc etc He didn't know what to do. I thought he was going to have a stroke. When his child came out I walked up to the teacher with him. My younger daughter had the same teacher last year. I said, "Hi, Eric! How was school today?" And talked to the teacher for a few minutes about Eric, as if he was my kid, just to f*ck with the narc. Then I went home with my girls. He's still blocked. I still haven't actually had a conversation with him. I don't think he will ask me for sex again. If he does I'm going to call the chief judge. I know I'm not a good example of NC but I'm not going to be harrassed anymore. I can't avoid it living here, and I'm not going to hang my head and avert my eyes like a wounded animal or a shunned woman. I'm going to throw his sh*t back at him in public until he learns to stay in his place.
Sep 29 - 3PM (Reply to #81)
AnotherPath
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If he asks you for sex and

If he asks you for sex and you call the chief judge, it won't turn out as YOU have planned. He has evidence and witnesses that you have been harassing him. You acted like a couple even in front of his son's teacher. You're saying suggestive things, you're playing with DANGER. You really need to know more about narcs. You can't play any games, they're dangerous people, pathological liars. You will lose ALWAYS. You have to ignore him if you want this to end. If you don't want this to end carry on with what you're doing, but make sure your two daughters are kept well away, it will effect them in every sense for life.

Ending the dance

Sep 29 - 2PM (Reply to #80)
janine
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Acting out

So you are not going to hang your head and avert your eyes but hug and kiss him instead? Hey, what is this going to achieve? When your therapist said about not being a doormat, did she not add that you are meant to deal with anger in a constructive way? With a N that implies keeping your mouth shut, since all else is SUPPLY!!! I can just picture your guy sitting there licking his lips, because he is so pleased what power he has over you. Better still, he has a sexual hold over you. I read what you had posted about sex the other day. Seems you are as badly addicted to yours as I've been to mine. If you absolutely cannot help being provoked, at least try not to react in suggestive ways. I'd rather not know how touching him has affected you.....been there, done it. Didn'd you say you were going to move in October?
Sep 29 - 8AM (Reply to #78)
Used
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traps

he setting a trap for you, you walked right into it...thats why he was freindly at your door, no one could hear him.... ok what you said to him at school is said and done...but while you were saying it quietly , he was sweating and showing signs of agitation, game over... people will have still seen this interchange, and he has plenty of witness,s to back up how "upset" he looked... you know this man is a PLAYER, and doesnt do any thing without an agenda.. you were the agenda!..you dont have to act like a shunned woman..you have to act better than him.. still take your girls to school..head held high... stay totally aloof, not just from him but anyone at the school.... you are giving him a shedload of evidence to use against you...please dont give him any more.... are you not moving soon.. move you and your girls from there. then when you have done that...moved this dog from your head... who has lived there rent free for too longxx
Sep 29 - 4PM (Reply to #79)
better off
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I disagree with the idea of

I disagree with the idea of her taking the kids to school and acting aloof. Alcoholics shouldn't hang around in bars. It's a wise decision to keep herself AWAY from the man who is triggering her. Because even if she can hold it together at first, he will provoke her. And this is not the time to be provoked. It's a small price to pay in the long run to avoid him and let someone else take the girls. The kids are FAR better off doing that than potentially witnessing some kind of crazy, embarrassing, frightening episode. And that has to come first. There is nothing to PROVE to this guy... putting herself in harm's way to somehow prove she doesn't care is still to be proving she does care. Right now the prescription has got to be staying as far away from his as possible. It's just too volatile.
Sep 29 - 2AM (Reply to #73)
Briseis
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This doesn't sound "good" if

This doesn't sound "good" if your eventual goal is to break free of this abusive Narc relationship :( It sounded like you were hoping to make him feel very uncomfortable, like you were "on top" for once. This is pretty much what Narcs do to US. We have to really watch out so we don't sink to their level. F*cking with him probably feels good, in the short run, like a relief. Finally GOT him, the bastard. But take it a few steps forward. This behavior goes SOMEWHERE, it has effects on you and him that will go on for the next few days. Plus . . . f*cking with someone is a downer, in the long run. It doesn't exactly have you feeling virtuous . . . deep down inside, you know you're acting just like him. I too am afraid he's going to sock you with something legal, and he'll have evidence against you. Or at least people around him who will back him up against you. The satisfaction of getting him back will not feel so good when you get served with a court summons. I hate to admit it but I am very afraid this is going to happen to you :( You say you aren't "harnessed anymore" but I see you literally chained to him by your reactions to him. You seem to have a very hard time NOT reacting to him. So every time he does something, you have to jump in there with a counter move. This is the kind of stuff honey that will blow up in your face. I guess I DO mean to scare you, but in a good way. You are hanging your ass out and you're gonna get smacked. Think of someone who you feel is incredibly dignified. How would she respond to your Narc? Probably not by trying to publically humiliate him. I imagine a very dignified person would be very calm and "above" all the bullshit, would be very slow to react because when you react, they HAVE you by the shorthairs!! It doesn't look strong and powerful to smack someone (even emotionally) around!! That's what Narcs think. It makes you look weak and immature, when what you really want to feel is your power! Your power is in your detachment from him. Your power is in your dignity. People who look strong do not throw shit in public and put people in their place. That is junior high school, when ya think about it. I am saying this because it's the way I used to believe "power" looked like. I couldn't let one thing get by me with my exNarc. I had to slap him back or I was a doormat. Instead, it is so much stronger, so much more powerful and DEADLY lol, to act as if he could do NOTHING that could possibly upset you. Be untouchable. I'm so afraid you are gonna get hurt if you don't get some kind of grip on this way of reacting to him. It is not healthy and it is not helping you one bit. It is pure acting out and it is destructive :( You've got to know that it's not OK, right? That it's not something you want to model for the newcomers, right? Believe me, I was NUTS, and I understand this reactive anger very very well. I'm just more on the other side of it and I'm warning you from personal experience, not some "holier than thou" position. I hope you can hear that in my words.
Sep 29 - 8AM (Reply to #74)
helldweller
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Briseis and everyone

You're all right. It feels good to be "on top" for once with him squirming. But it's not being on top. I't's being down in the gutter with him. I am going to arrange for my daughters to be walked to school by a neighbor for a few weeks, and picked up by their dad, until we get settled in our new place. I am in therapy twice a week. She's great but she told me to get angry about being a doormat my whole life--and I think I had that in my head. One of the things we are trying to work on is me standing up for myself without yelling and screaming or acting like an idiot. We agreed that part or all of the problem is the fact that I had bulimia after my dad died when I was eighteen.I had always been quiet as a church mouse. My brother was suddenly the head of the house and ruled with an iron fist. I was not allowed to do anything I wanted, say anything I felt, express an opinion about anything, and he also beat me up a lot, for no reason, just if he was having a bad day or something. It was awful. So I started throwing up exercising three or four hours a day, to exert some control, according to the psychiatrist I saw for eight years. I was finally totally cured, but the cure was to start expressing myself, stating my opinion, expressing my rights. As a result I think I am uber-expressive of everything now. I think I panic fearing that I'm going to be repressing things again and start vomiting again. I need to learn to just stand my ground, state my position simply and walk away. Thanks for looking out for me. Hey! I still haven't unblocked his number! I haven't texted him since last Thursday! That's got to be some kind of miracle!
Sep 29 - 1PM (Reply to #76)
Briseis
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That IS progress . . . it

That IS progress . . . it will be real, enduring progress if no more of these "episodes" of acting out happen. Cutting him off with NC might even be a little easier than you NOT acting out on him LOL! I also don't hear your therapist encouraging "acting out" your anger and feelings. I'm pretty sure she is encouraging you to FEEL them, give yourself permission TO BE angry, to have a differing opinion, to have personal rights that ought not to be trampled upon by others. A person can feel quite powerful, and BE quite powerful, while completely silent, and not doing a thing! Just sitting there. As long as you believe that your power is dependent upon another person SEEING you as powerful, you are still looking to others to define you. You do not go around trying to PROVE to others you are a female. You know you are female, I mean, DUH. If someone came up to you and insinuated you were really male, you'd laugh and brush it off. When you feel you have a sense of control over yourself (your power), people can do all kinds of CRAZY shit to you and you just sit there with your eyebrows up thinking "what in the hell is UP with this idiot??" You don't put up with it, you get away. You don't see them as a "threat" per se, unless it is a physical threat. But an emotional threat? Hell no. You are trying to feel powerful by doing this acting out stuff. We all get that. It's just misdirected. It's a legitimate need for you to feel powerful. You just have to understand, and then feel your REAL personal power. And it's NOT gluing his locks or publically humiliating him lol. Though those things have an understandable satisfaction :P they lead you AWAY from what you seek :)
Sep 29 - 4PM (Reply to #77)
better off
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I love this statement

"A person can feel quite powerful, and BE quite powerful, while completely silent, and not doing a thing! Just sitting there. As long as you believe that your power is dependent upon another person SEEING you as powerful, you are still looking to others to define you." That's a powerful thought... trying to be SEEN as powerful is still being defined by another. This reminds me of an example I heard about state troopers and parenting. If you get stopped for speeding, the trooper doesn't pound on your hood, and scream and cry, WHY?! WHY DO YOU SPEED?! YOU KNOW YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE SPEEDING!!! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?!" They are cool, calm, collected, polite usually, and they just give you the consequence for speeding. They know their POSITION.
Sep 29 - 11AM (Reply to #75)
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I think you may have misread

I think you may have misread what the therapist was attempting to accomplish with you hun. I think she is trying to make you see that you have been used and abused enough and it is time for you to regain your power and control over the situation within yourself. This does not mean to take action towards the Narc but to take action from within you. Sometimes a anger can be a productive driving force to create change with in ourselves. So it can be a good thing to some degree, But anger can also work against us if we hang on to it for extended periods and we allow it to control our actions and behaviors. It can and will keep us stuck in the past and drive us to take actions that are not healthy in our recovery. Honey, you have to let go sometime. It really begins with acceptance. #1 Accept that he IS a narcissist and you will never ever ever change this. He will never be the fantasy man you dream of. He will never give you what you are needing in a real relationship. You have lived a lie with this man from day one and nothing you say or do will ever fix this. He will always use and abuse you and you will always be this doormat you speak of. #2 Accept that you do have more power and control within yourself to recover from this. You do not have to be this asteroid traveling at the speed of light sure to have a direct collision with earth if you do not want to be. You have a choice today and have the support system in place to accomplish this. When you master number one, number two will follow naturally One thing i always want you to keep in your mind; While you are wasting ALL your time, energy and precious brain power on this destructive and demented individual who is not worthy to eat the scraps on your plate, the real person of your dreams that you are intended to share your life with is waiting for you. How long are you going to make him wait Helldweller? You are preventing the natural flow of life to happen by engaging in this lost relationship that is not intended to go anywhere EVER. Your attempting to swim up stream in a forceful current right now and you are drowning. Go with the flow and change will happen. Peace will come. . Luv you Betty only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Sep 28 - 11PM (Reply to #72)
betty2020
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Am I reading this post

Am I reading this post correctly?? Did you say you approached him at the school? You kissed him? You spoke to the teacher about a child that is not yours? I am over the top with concerned for you right now Helldweller. I know this will piss you off but your actions are beyond reproach! This act of revenge and bulling tactics put you on the level of him!!! I am bewildered, I am shocked but most of all I am very concerned for you sanity right now. I hope I misread this. If not you need to get one of these veterans on the board to sponsor you before you end up in jail because eventually he will turn this all around on YOU!! No one will be to blame but yourself. He is going to start pressing charges against you eventually. He laid the bait and you bit when he came to your door. You showed him your bitter side and stroked his ego. You acted out IN PUBLIC for everyone to see and gave him ammunition to use on you later. Where does this saga end? You need to get control of your anger. You need to slow down and think before you take any action towards him. This bitterness is consuming you and your on the verge of putting yourself in serious trouble. Do not ever give them ammunition. EVER. This did not give you your vindication. This made you look like a fool. He more than likely told all the parents your nutz. And as far as you being the wounded animal or shunned woman? Well thats only a choice for you to make. Its only the perception thats in your mind and no one elses. This behavior is unacceptable and frankly childish. You need to stand up and be the strong woman that I KNOW you really are! I just dont know what to say right now. I watch you come to the board and show signs of enlightenment and then i read this. ?? Work on you angers and resentments before you do something that you will surly regret in the end. I love you very much and I will be praying for clarity for you tonight. only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Sep 28 - 10PM (Reply to #70)
michele115 (not verified)
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Holy Cow!!!

APPLAUSE...NO STANDING OVATION... Just don't start feeling guilty or hooked okay? PROMISE REMEMBER: He is a manipulator, he's better at headgames, there are no rules and he might just get inside your head and screw you up and take you backwards.... STAND FIRM IN YOUR RESOVE The guy is a pansy in pants... Keep the visual
Sep 28 - 11PM (Reply to #71)
better off
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Before you read the rest of

Before you read the rest of my comments, helldweller, I misread something in your post so I was really upset about it... take it with a grain of salt until you get to the end. I thought you said that stuff to the narc "loud enough for anyone to hear" instead of NOT loud enough for anyone to hear... so that obviously would give it a different...um, flavor. I thought people waiting to pick up kids heard you. So, hope that explains the stance I took... (blush)
Sep 28 - 9PM (Reply to #61)
better off
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"I can't avoid it living

"I can't avoid it living here, and I'm not going to hang my head and avert my eyes like a wounded animal or a shunned woman. I'm going to throw his sh*t back at him in public until he learns to stay in his place." Hmm, well there's always another option, which is NOT to hang your head and avert your eyes like a wounded animal. It's to walk with your head held high, and with pride, and ignore him anyway. There is also something called a restraining order so he can't come up to your door or speak to you in public at school. Only problem is you would have to abide by it too. I know you think you can make him stay in his place, but whatever you do, he will use it against you. If he wants to convince everyone you are crazy, you are helping him by acting like that at school. Helldweller, it's not YOUR school.. it's your DAUGHTERS' school. They have to go there. PLEASE think of them and just bite your tongue! Teachers talk, parents talk, kids talk. You won't pay for people hearing you say shit about licking your neighbor's ass, but THEY WILL. She's already seeing the counselor every week... you don't even know what's being said in there. THEY HAVE A FILE. HELLO? A FILE? Swallow your pride, and DO.NOT.TALK.TO.HIM. Drive them to school, I don't care if it's ONE BLOCK, drive them and stay in your car. And pick them up with your car, and STAY IN IT. Then drive off to somewhere, let him wonder where.
Sep 28 - 9PM (Reply to #62)
Janet
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You have been here long

You have been here long enough to know that this is not healthy behavior on your part. We know he is sick, but you are not behaving at all like a healthy adult. What is that status of your therapy? You continue to say you are through - then that you want to have sex with him - that he is a creep -- that you are really happy and moving ahead - that you "really showed him", this time at a children's playground. You have children and you are behaving in a very childish fashion at THEIR playground. Look, we know it is hard, it is hell when there is still contact. He does not like you let alone love you. Let it go. You have to ride it out and it is incredibly hard. I am serious about the therapy question. This board is NOT therapy. Peace. J

Peace. J

Sep 28 - 10PM (Reply to #63)
michele115 (not verified)
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Ladies

I'm not the expert here, but what I think Heldweller is doing is trying to get to a point where SHE feels she is in control. I am hoping that she is and stays firm in her resolve. Basically, what a NARC fears most and hates most is to be in a position where he is rendered "impotent"? SO, he's following behind her, he is hovering her...he felt in control...she's saying stay away and he's all up in her face violating her space. He's done it in public if I remember correctly...actually felt you up in public right? So what I think Heldweller did was reverse the table. Violate him...show him she wasn't afraid went in his face, then slammed the door. As long as she can keep the door slammed shut, I think she'll be okay. Helldweller, I do hope that this is the first and last incident however, or else you will get caught up in yet ANOTHER one of his sick games. He is scheming on how to strike back...bet your buttocks...and he will wait. You can't top this guy...He's from another realm... So let me clarify: I applaud what you did today...but this can't be the new game. NC...NC...NC...NC okay?
Sep 29 - 8AM (Reply to #68)
helldweller
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Michele 115 and others

I just wanted to say again I'm not proud of yesterday, but I truly do think he maybe learned a lesson out of it. He does NOT want to be embarrassed in public, does not want to be put on the spot. That's waht I meant to do: scare him enough to get him to stop. I had no hope that he would "see what if feels like" for him to have humiliated me, because they are incapable of that. And yes, Michele, he had no problem feeling me up, putting his hand up my dress, slapping me on my butt--in front of my children, in front of the neighbors, anyone. Even at school BEFORE he had a child of his own and became "heroic single dad." Anyway, whoever suggested the restraining order, it may be an option down the line. We are moving and I am hoping this will not be an issue anymore afterwards.
Sep 29 - 4PM (Reply to #69)
better off
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Magical Thinking

Helldweller, you are still in some denial about what pathology is, and what you can do about it. you said "I truly do think he maybe learned a lesson out of it. He does NOT want to be embarrassed in public, does not want to be put on the spot. That's waht I meant to do: scare him enough to get him to stop." PATHOLOGICAL PEOPLE CANNOT LEARN. If they could learn lessons about behavior...they would not be pathological. You cannot teach someone a lesson if that someone is unteachable. A narcissist has an unteachable spirit. So you can't "show" him anything at all. The only "lesson" HE learned is that you can be made to act nuts by what he did earlier that day. He can control YOU and wind you up like a jack in the box. And yeah, he might go OMG!! when the jack in the box pops out, just for a second, but he wound it up in the first place... the pleasure is in waiting for it to pop. And POP you did. His supposed "discomfort" at how you acted... he gets off on that, the way some people like thriller movies. I promise you, it gave him a "thrill" even if he didn't want to be embarrassed (supposedly). And if you think you can SCARE him enough to STOP, you need to think about it more! He is a psychopath. He does not feel real fear, he does not learn from past experience, he does not care about consequences of his actions. HE is NOT human. And will not STOP doing anything just because you wigged out at school. Did smashing his windshield with a hammer scare him? No. Don't you find that strange? If my ex came around and smashed MY windshield with a hammer, it would scare ME, and I would call the police. I would get a restraining order. But he didn't do anything. He liked it, because it showed how worked up HE can get you. Because he's a NUTJOB. Here's the question, helldweller... will YOU learn from your mistakes? Will YOU get scared when you should? Do YOU care about the possible consequences of your actions? You simply MUST. Every time you get angry or feel some impulse to do something, ask yourself, is this good for my daughters? NOT if it's good for you, in your mind, that it will make you feel powerful, or in control again, stand up to him, or blah blah... but is it good for your daughters? And you have to get it OUT OF YOUR HEAD that you can impact him or control him or this situation. YOU CANNOT CONTROL A PATHOLOGICAL. Neither can anyone else. The Serenity Prayer asks for the ability to accept what you cannot change, courage to change the things you can, and THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. The only thing you can change is YOU. xoxoxox
Sep 28 - 10PM (Reply to #64)
better off
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That was not being in

That was not being in control. That was impulsive and emotional. And I can tell you my kids would DIE A THOUSAND DEATHS rather than have something like that happen. The situation is BAD ENOUGH. You don't reverse the tables on your kids' playground. We've said it before and we'll say it again: FIGHTING WITH THEM IS SUPPLY. It doesn't matter how he "took it" or how he looked. Or what door got slammed. Nothing stops this guy, nothing. NOTHING. He has no shame. And he would think nothing of telling other people that she loudly said she wanted to lick his ass on the schoolyard and then violated his child's privacy by talking to his teacher like that, etc etc., that she was a stalker.. do you see how this is not a game she can WIN? The only way to win is NOT TO PLAY. We all know why she said those things, but no one else DOES! How hard would it be to make someone look like an unfit parent with that? IT'S A RISK. He doesn't pump gas, he's a JUDGE. He could make a case that SHE is not allowed on the school yard or to talk to the boy's teacher. HE COULD DO THAT. That's what "reversing the table" on a narc can do to you. You don't reverse the table, because you don't SIT AT THE TABLE. You walk AWAY. This is not cool, and it's going to cause trouble for the kids. There is no reason. Acting out like this to feel better isn't going to help in the long run.
Sep 28 - 10PM (Reply to #65)
michele115 (not verified)
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Better Off

Heldweller did what she did. I agree with you better off, that a more dignified way of handling it would have been to stay away. BUT at this juncture, it is done...I also made it clear that I think it should be the last time she does it. You raise valid points about his being a Judge and possibly being able to create more destruction; however, we all do stupid things from time to time when we are dealing with such powerful emotions - In reading Helldweller's account, she said she spoke low enough for no one to hear. As far as speaking to the teacher etc...yes, maybe inappropriate; however, if the child did not show any great fear and her kids go to the school too - I don't think he'd get to make much of it. Helldweller, don't get paranoid waiting for the shoe to drop. You did what you did, don't do it again and enjoy the chuckle you got outta it. Just leave it there and close the book...Okay?
Sep 28 - 11PM (Reply to #66)
better off
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My bad, I didn't read that

My bad, I didn't read that closely enough.. I thought it said she said it loudly enough for ANYONE to hear, and I just freaked out! Like, NOOOO!!!! Retreat, retreat!! Look, I get a little worried, since in the recent past these things HAVE escalated to fistfights, and smashed windows. I just don't want to see her jeopardize everything now when she's so close to getting out of there.
Sep 28 - 11PM (Reply to #67)
michele115 (not verified)
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I get you completely better off

No offense taken...we're all here to help one another...get a sister out of the way of the train wreck... for that...hats off to you. Hugs
Sep 27 - 11AM
helldweller
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left me a note of all things

"You left me no choice but to do it without you. You don't know how to act and you can never be counted on for anything. You hate everyone and hate me every other day. I would like to come over and smooch." I was tempted to write him back and say, "No, I hate you EVERY day," but I folded up the note, put it in a box our photos and things, and that was that. Come over and smooch. Seriously. You seriously cannot make this stuff up.
Sep 27 - 11AM
helldweller
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left me a note of all things

"You left me no choice but to do it without you. You don't know how to act and you can never be counted on for anything. You hate everyone and hate me every other day. I would like to come over and smooch." I was tempted to write him back and say, "No, I hate you EVERY day," but I folded up the note, put it in a box our photos and things, and that was that. Come over and smooch. Seriously. You seriously cannot make this stuff up.
Sep 27 - 2PM (Reply to #53)
ShaynasMommy
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???

....you hate me, I wanna smootch you? *Blink, Blink* HUH!?!
Sep 27 - 3PM (Reply to #59)
Used
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shaynasmommy

you hate me, I wanna smootch you? *Blink, Blink* narc,s love beign hated.... they get off on it......to them that is love.
Sep 27 - 2PM (Reply to #54)
better off
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It doesn't get anymore

It doesn't get anymore insane than that, does it? I also read it as.. "You are a terrible person. Let's smooch." ACK! Also, I would like to remind helldweller that Wet Noodle says everything BACKWARDS. You have to play the record backwards to hear what it really says: "I left myself no choice but to do it without you. I don't know how to act and I can never be counted on for anything. I hate everyone and hate myself every other day. I would like to come over and abuse you."
Sep 27 - 3PM (Reply to #55)
helldweller
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better off

It just sounds so funny when you actually SAY it. "I hate myself. I would like to come over and abuse you." It's so true.
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #56)
better off
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How to Act

Hey I just figured something out! When he says "you don't know how to ACT," he means you don't know how to act... on his stage. You are a terrible actress. You won't stick to the script. Meanwhile, he is always acting. Remember that old Jon Lovitz character on SNL? "I'm... ACTING!!!!" [with flourish of arm]
Sep 28 - 9AM (Reply to #57)
helldweller
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Oh, boy, that is so true. That was the number one thing I always felt about me and him, his family, his friends. I didn't know how to play my part, I didn't know the script, I didn't know the program. And I was so frustrating! And they were all so patient with me! They gave me so many chances to get in character and I just kept screwing it up. NEXT!