ANGER

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#1 Jan 24 - 8AM
smnp
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ANGER

Remember when I told you guys that I wasn't sure I would ever hit the "angry" stage?

Yeah, I'm there.

I got a phone call from one of the 7 OW yesterday. I do talk to her from time to time, an have found her to be very supportive and good for my recovery. We're not hang-out-on-a-Saturday-night friends, but we of course share this awful connection. Anyway, her pap test came back + for HPV. This is the virus that causes abnormal cervical cells and can lead to cervical cancer. Now, let me be clear: I understand more than most about HPV and it's implications. I'm a Women's Health NP, and have been in private practice for almost 10 years. I give my patients the "Try not to worry about HPV" speech on a daily basis. And, while an abnormal pap or cervical surgery in the future could render me unable to bear any more children (b/c I delivered at 26wks w my daughter, and cervical trauma could cause cervical incompetence, and I would be at aMUCH higher risk than average for another premature delivery, sick baby, etc.) I am not terribly upset about the HPV itself, because I understand that 80% of women have been exposed at some point in their lifetime.

Reliving the level of betrayal is the part that guts me. He was with SEVEN women at the same time. All of us were told we were the only one. He loved me, there was no one else, I was his everything. I was like turning on a light in a dark room. But still, he had sex with 7 of us at the same time. He lied. He cheated. He took so much away from me. The betrayal is the worst part. The heartbreak all over again.

I had just started to pull out of it. I am 3+months NC. I have stopped counting the days. I don't think of him wistfully anymore. I even went out on a date a few times with a lovely kind man, who I think would want to be my boyfriend except I'm NOT ready for that. It has been nice to spend time w someone again. To go to a movie or dinner. To be treated respectfully. I had finally turned the corner. I was rediscovering my confidence and self esteem.

Until this.

I am gutted by betrayal again. How COULD he?? He knew. The whole time, he knew. And I am so angry I can't see straight. So of course, because I'm that sensitive soul, I cry. I cry out of anger. Big hot slow angry tears of a woman that gave everything to a man who disrespected, lies, abused, cheated... I am so so angry.

I need some support, my friends. My cyber virtual warriors. I can't stand up alone. The anger and the hurt and betrayal are suffocating.

Even in NC, I can't make him go away. I just want to be FREE. I just want him to be gone. Like in The Wizard Of Oz: BE GONE, YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE! Go away. Leave me alone. Take your HPV and your lies and your dirty soul and BE GONE.

I am so angry. Finally.

Jan 25 - 7AM
Winter
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Smnp

Not to flatter you, even not to encourage you... You progress is amazing and palpable! I remember your frist posts... Another woman is writing now. Between "I want him at any cost" and "I want to be free... I just want him to be gone..." Wow! And I mean it! Wow! Only 3 months and such a progress! You are being very fortunate that you a granted with the ability of doing so well with your recovery. Please, cherish that, it is not given to everybody. Of course, there is a huge part of your inner work, but there is also a part of having this ability. I hope I am not being too confusing in what I am trying to express :) Now, you are obviously being triggered big time. The way you feel is so normal. Who would not? It is ok, it comes and goes in waiwes. But! Really, I cannot stress it enough and this is what I really think: You are definetely much stronger than an average person! You WILL BE FREE. Completely free. All this story will be soon just an old nightmare. It will not affect you soon. Please, trust me. Love Winter
Jan 25 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
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Thank you Winter

How sweet you are! I feel in a very good place. It's probably not productive from a spiritual/Zen place, but it almost feels GOOD to get angry. Thank you for your kind words. I don't know that I would have gotten here without all of you in this forum. You held me up so many times. I am forever in your debt. Sara
Jan 25 - 12AM
alicepaul
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Mine gave me HSV2

I know how you might feel smnp. After bragging to me that he was "100 percent clean dood," and swearing that he hasn't been with any other woman than his wife in the last 21 years, he managed to give me HSV2 (herpes 2). I know it was him because my last few tests were negative up until the month before I was with him for the first time. I was so devastated and fucking angry! (I realize herpes is not as bad as it seems, but it was the broken trust that crushed me.) I called him after my doctor gave me the news. Of course he told me he didn't think he had it. Then he supposedly got tested and called me two weeks later and said he was negative. My gut told me he was lying because it hit me that he was indeed an N, and probably a P. Even my doctor said I had a new infection. It was after his denial that it suddenly hit me--he had probably been lying to me the entire time about everything. I remained calm while on the phone with him on the phone because I knew it was over. I even said sarcastically that I guess I got it from a toilet seat! The last thing I said to him was "Talk to you later." What I wanted to say was "Fuck you, you piece of shit bastard!" That was almost four months ago. I still hate the lying foul skinwalker, but thankfully my hate and anger is receding and I'm moving closer to indifference.
Jan 25 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
smnp
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You poor girl

Im so sorry. HSV is not fun- its not fair. I hate when bad things happen to good people...
Jan 24 - 11AM
TNR1
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I contracted high risk HPV

I contracted high risk HPV from Mr. N as well...when I told him, he did not seem that concerned. In fact, he called me wanting to have sex the same day as I had a colposcopy (worst pain I've ever had!!). Needless to say, I told him flat out "No". I am truly sorry about this news...but it just shows how absolutely insensitive these men are..they don't care about risking our health one iota.
Jan 26 - 10PM (Reply to #5)
alicepaul
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These jerks are twisted.

I can't help but think that these Ns are fully aware of putting their partners at risk for STDs and they just either don't care or do it on purpose. How can anyone sleep with multiple people at the same time and not think anything will happen? After finding out I had HSV2 I consoled myself that at least I didn't have HIV! I made sure to get tested for that too, and I'm going to get another test next month for good measure. That's what really woke me up to the N/P. Either he was in denial about giving it to me or he did it purposely. This is someone I've known for years, and he didn't give a shit about my well-being. If he was capable of that, what would he do to me next? I didn't want to find out.
Jan 24 - 8AM
Used
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smnp

I AM SO SORRY, BUT AFTER ANGER COMES INDIFFRENCE.... JUST MY TAKE, BUT I DONT THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA TO BE FRIENDS WITH OW,S, EXG/F, EXW.... I DONT THINK IT IS HEALTHY....
Jan 24 - 8AM (Reply to #3)
smnp
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Used I agree.

I would say I relied on this OW much more in the fall, when my life fell apart. The good part for me was that she ended her contact w him right when I met him. Because we were not actually concurrent girlfriends, it is somehow easier to swallow. I have noticed in the last month to 6wks that we talk less and less. I firmly believe that she came into my life to help me through and support me. It will never be a "friendship", but talking to her feels the same as talking to anyone here in the forum. Except she almost understands BETTER because she lived it with him too. I don't know. I feel ok about it. I don't feel (and my therapist agrees) that it's holding me back. But I totally see where you're coming from w your concern about my talking to her. Thank you for caring enough to bring it up!! xo
Jan 24 - 8AM
Hunter
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I think of you often.. I'm so

I think of you often.. I'm so glad you're angry.. Now you see this piece of shit for what he is.. This whole process takes about 2 years.. So follow the "Yellow Brick Road" Dorothy and crew didn't figure out the Wizard for a long time.. She did find her way home.. Click your heals my friend.. There's no place like home.. Hunter