Difficult to give up Hope

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#1 Feb 22 - 11AM
CougarBabe7
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Difficult to give up Hope

Good Day Ladies,

I just wanted to write a quick post about hope, and how difficult it is to give up hope that our PDI's will change and/or will seek therapy to deal with their mental illness. And please don't kid yourselves, personality disorders ARE mental illnesses.

I can't even count how many times I've broken NC - sending my ex-PDI letters, texts, videos, articles, etc. I even went so far as to buy a book about his disorder & highlighted the parts that applied to him, knowing that he would never be bothered to read the entire book. So I did all the work for him by highlighting the parts I thought he needed to read, then dropped off the book in his mailbox. I begged and begged and begged him to go to a counselor, either with me or on his own. I tried to educate him on the disorder and what therapies are available to help him deal with it and recover from it. I explained that I still loved him despite his disorder and that I always would, but that there was simply no hope of us getting back together unless he was willing to do the counseling thing. I did this stuff for an entire YEAR!

Bottom line: he's still in denial about his condition & still tries to tell me that it's me who has the problem. He simply refuses to acknowledge that it's him and chooses to continue living in denial.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you all that I KNOW how hard it is to give up hope. But I finally have & you can too. I don't send letters and videos anymore; no more books and articles. I grew tired of wasting all my time, energy and money "beating a dead horse." He can stay in denial all he wants now. I've got better things to do with my time.

Do yourselves a big favor & don't even bother going through all the trouble that I went through, because in the end, it'll probably end up that it was all for nothing.

The white flag is out and I have surrendered - his denial has won this battle and I have officially given up hope!

Feb 23 - 8AM
Goldie
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I love this Cougar

We can only remain hopeful about ourselves when it comes to the PD's. This lesson is HUGE for me. I spent my entire life trying to help and change many a Narc. It began with my father and I was still going strong with the last one. What I have come to learn is that I need to keep the hope alive for me and my life. Hoping that another will change and fill my needs is like shoveling shit against the tide. All it ever did was to drain my energy and keep me in a state of frustration and pain. Giving up that hope for them is a big step in our recovery and a stage of grief. Grieving the loss of the hope can be painful because it is a major part of what kept the relationship ALIVE for so long and as you say, kept us going back for another round. You are growing in leaps and bounds here and this is a fantastic turning point for you. Keep up the good work girl!!! Goldie
Feb 23 - 5AM
Scoop
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Giveing up hope for me was

Giveing up hope for me was the biggest struggle , it comes at its own time i think , i am only just now after a year nc getting my head round the "no hope" situation . I kept saying there is no hope but the cog diss would kick in and i would say "wheres these is life theres hope" and that was the see saw crazy making diffrent ideas i was holding on to at the same time . It has lessened over the months to where i use to have the biggest swing to "there is hope" now the biggest swing it to "there is no hope" and that girlfriends is progress ! They say it takes 18 months to heal from these relationships and im going to say thats right for me .I feel 2 thirds healed .Phew what a ride eh ? xx
Feb 23 - 1AM
M
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it is pathetic

Just found out my xhN had been emailing one of my closest friends to convince her to to convince me to talk to him. NC is killing him.
Feb 23 - 12AM
jen79
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cougarbabe

yep, me too. After 2 years struggle, I finally accept, that there is nothing I could do to change him. And unfortunatly I had to find out through trying every possible stragedy you can imagine to show me again a little bit affection. I was the whore, the almost gf, the potential gf, the cyber whore again, the maybe gf, the we are just friends, we are just...blahblah. I played hard to get, I was funny and easy, then I was deep and emotional, I was caring and nurturing, I was a sister, a mother, a friend, mother theresa with no own needs and just unconditional love ...you name it, every possible archetype that lies in store for us, I was. And all I got, was contempt, and exploitation, and abuse, and witholding, all the narc program. I am done. I am happy I made it out of his spider web so "early", after almost 3 years, I know most of his victims are in it for decades, and till now didnt find a way out. All in denial. But I can sense how they are all in the psychological trap of intermittent reinforcement and stockholme syndrome. Lesson learned, no way back for me, I have nothing to give anymore, let alone to say. I have said it all already.
Feb 22 - 8PM
Disillusionedx2
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good for you!

They know who/what they are, they are hopeless to change, it's them, they are the DISORDER, they will go to the grave with it, the best love to give them is from a distance, glad you tried, I did a bit, I slowly, methodically told him it's not his fault...he finished my statement saying "I'm an alien"? I nodded in agreement, but, he just ran with it and say's you know I can't help the way that I am, "they made me like this" (his parents)you're right, best wishes!

stay~strong

Feb 22 - 8PM
onwithmylife
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cougar babe7

after he left me,I spent the next 2YEARS trying to get him to see the light in the most constructive way,Even sent him a nice cute card when i found out he was suffering from cancers and only to get back a nasty note and telling his son I was harassing him, what a sad idiot both mentally and physically, he will die alone and deservedly so.they are mental basket cases and will go to their death saying you are wrong, when i wrote him asking who was the common denominator in his 5 failed relationships, he sent me back ,a real ugly letter, i must have hit the bullseye.they simply will not look within themselves because if they did, they would break mentally.
Feb 22 - 4PM
gettinbetter
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Yep me too. I had the urge to

Yep me too. I had the urge to text last week and I thought what would be the purpose if he answers he'll just tell me black is white and that he can't believe the hateful stuff I've done to him etc..... so I said to myself sick of it that's gonna make u happy how and I put the phone down. Its futile. Everyone gets there in their own time.
Feb 22 - 4PM
gettinbetter
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Yep me too. I had the urge to

Yep me too. I had the urge to text last week and I thought what would be the purpose if he answers he'll just tell me black is white and that he can't believe the hateful stuff I've done to him etc..... so I said to myself sick of it that's gonna make u happy how and I put the phone down. Its futile. Everyone gets there in their own time.
Feb 22 - 11AM
Happy1
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yes! The hardest part is

yes! The hardest part is giving up the dream! Giving up the control you feel you need to make it better. To try harder and be the woman you think he wants you to be. It's hard to let go of it but it's necessary. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. Walking away from the narc has been like pulling all my hair out. It's excrutiating but necessary for my survival. It's about us living our lives and not there's.