the feeling of wanting revenge..

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#1 May 2 - 7PM
miinx
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the feeling of wanting revenge..

i am struggling alot with this lately... the feeling of wanting revenge, the feeling of wanting to expose him to everyone.. particulary his new girlfriends, the OW.. wanting him to have all the chickens come home to roost and deal with the pain and lies he have fed to everyone in his life.. he doesnt deserve all the things he has.. he destroyed me.. and its so hard to let go of the feeling of wanting to destroy him right back..

i know logically in my brain... doing this will get me nowhere. I know most of his girls are way too far gone at this point... i know making his actions public knowledge would probably result in a smear campaign against me, and countless photos he convinced me to take for him being spread to the whole world.... but god.. i can't stand it. he has all these women fawning over him, cheating left and right without a care in the world, while i am alone, in therapy and on anti-depressants, struggling to get through each day because of the damage he caused me and my self worth, my entire life..

he is dating 3 women simultaneously right now. one of them i know.. shes very sweet, very religious.. even gave up the v-card to him.. shes young and naive. as far as she is concerned, she is his one and only, her prince charming, and they're in love..she is so far gone and too naive to know what he is capable of.. he is a sexual deviant, a liar, an emotional and physical abuser.. literally a monster. he is not in any way the religious prince charming he is pretending to be with her.. hes an athiest for god's sake, and cracks jokes about the 'stupidity' of religious people with regularity...

hes also dating a single mom on the side.. as well as messing around with a 40-something MARRIED woman with 3 children.. he is 24. Only the married woman is aware about any of the other two women. He also has been harassing me via aim, skype on multiple names.. sending me perverted photos of himself, begging me to get on skype and give him a 'show', sending obscene text messages... he even went so far as to suggest i come visit him in dallas (i ignored this entirely).

he tells people he is single (.. past repeating itself much here.. once upon a time i discovered a load of text messages to random women while we were living together, claiming he was single and lived alone..).

i can't stand what a bottom feeding piece of scum he is. i cant stand how he has these people fooled. i cant stand knowing how much he is going to destroy this girl, just like he destroyed me... it makes me want to throw up. it hurts my heart and eats at me, knowing i could say something.. but not saying anything.. even though i know it wouldn't do much.. it eats at me to not even try, and it eats at me that no one ever exposes this piece of trash for what he is... the urge to tell everyone we know exactly what he has done.. what he is doing.. is so overwhelming.

HOW do you get past these feelings? how do you become okay with not warning the OW that she is being cheated on, that she is being lied to, that she is dating a physical and mental abuser? how do you stop the burning desire to scream from the rooftops all that he has done and the want to tear him apart like he did to you? its all i can think about lately...

May 9 - 10PM
Susan32
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Don't we all???

Thought this was relevant for bumping... I'd loove to see my ex-N get his comeuppance, but I'm leaving it up to God. The sight of him would be disgusting for me to behold. I don't want to see him ever again.
May 10 - 6AM (Reply to #29)
Barbara (not verified)
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accountability

I'm leaving it up to God from what you've said, sounded like you tried to get in plenty yourself... there's an old joke: A man drowns and goes to heaven and says 'God why didn't you help me? I called out for you.' God says 'I sent help...' Man says 'but YOU never came!' God says 'I sent a boat... I sent a helicopter... I sent a swim' team... THAT was your help!" Sometimes WE are their accountability moment. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 10 - 10PM (Reply to #30)
Susan32
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I find that satisfying

If Narcs are INCURABLE, how can WE be their accountability moments? Sometimes I feel I wasn't the accountability moment... since my ex-N showed NO accountability. It would be nice if I were the ghost that keeps him from sleeping (yes, the living can have ghosts)... but as you've said, they're ROCKS. How can one move a mountain? If past habits are the path to the present, my ex-N can be his own ruination... it's HIS choice, after all... And God helps those who help themselves. If my ex-N is still repulsing his colleagues with his narcissism and his students still talk about him as a mean, masturbating drunk who's not human... well, that's HIS choice.
May 10 - 10PM (Reply to #31)
Barbara (not verified)
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accountability

asking someone to ACCOUNT for their actions is EXPOSURE. It's for you and they rarely if ever give accountability anyway. You are simply letting them know you are aware of what they did to you. it has NOTHING to do with curing or treating them... or moving them in any way you are mixing apples & oranges here. God helps those who help themselves, but not if you think YOU are God. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 6 - 10AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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even Hell is too good for him..........

he came straight out of Hell....and is back there now....i bet they had a HOMECOMING PARADE for him.....he's probably just all comfy and cozy and warm there..... just back in the old neighborhood, the demonic bastard........
May 6 - 10AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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even a moment of semi -reflection

was tainted.....he had sworn years before, on his own life, and hoped to die a horrible death, that he was going to help me care for my ailing dog which he eventually murdered...and of COURSE he lied...... as he was laying there dying...he DID reflect on that...'i remember that i swore to God on my own life and hoped to die a miserable death that i would help take care of BEN while he had cancer, and lied..i think maybe that's why i'm here'... but even THAT was tainted with an underlyig accusation toward ME...that i had PIMPED him into making that oath.....so of course even that was my fault....
May 6 - 9AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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Karma........

well....although mine is dead...from liver and renal failure from his years of boozing and drugging.....i'm still gonna have to say NO to Karma...... because....are you truly being PUNISHED...if you don't believe you've done anything wrong???.... and they all believe they've done nothing wrong....so they don't see the things that happen to them as CONSEQUENCES of their actions...or PUNISHMENT...they see it as PERSECUTION.... so if someone doesn't realize what they're being punished for...or that they're being punished at all....does it count?..... i really don't think so........
May 6 - 10AM (Reply to #23)
Susan32
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Sounds like karma, but he was self-centered and oblivious

Sounds like the liver and renal failure is karma to me... the consequences of boozing. Your ex-N didn't see it that way, but anyone with an objective sense would say that yes, he reaped what he sowed. In his self-centeredness, he sees it as persecution, when he's brought it on himself.
May 6 - 1PM (Reply to #24)
Barbara (not verified)
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not with a pathological

Karma is B.S. to people who are NOT HUMAN and have no use for consequences and it takes too damn long ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 7 - 10PM (Reply to #25)
Susan32
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I just want SOME JUSTICE!

After what my ex-N put me through (and our D&D happened WHILE one of my close friends died from a 7 year long battle with prostate cancer)... I've wanted justice. Longed for it. I do not call for vengeance on his wife and children... they are not at fault. They did nothing wrong. HE was the one who wronged me... but I'm leaving it to God to take care of it. As Paul says in his letter to the Romans,"Vengeance is mine saith the Lord."
May 4 - 7PM
happydaysahead
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Karma

What's everyone's take on this ?? Will any of it actually come back on the N ?? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
May 4 - 9PM (Reply to #21)
Susan32
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Actions have consequences

The basic teaching on karma is that actions have consequences. The way you treat people does come back to you. As one of my friends put it "Good things happen to happy people." Narcissism has consequences too. It might not be a lightning bolt or a tragic accident, but narcissists do carry in themselves what they've reaped. As the book of Isaiah says,"As you sow, so shall you reap."
May 3 - 9PM
pantsonfire
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Post him on womansavers? & the like...

I feel your pain dear. It chaps my ass that we're left w/ so much damage to unravel and they move on relatively unscathed, at least at the surface. The N I've been w/ for 20 years seemed to have no problem moving on to attempt an occupational promotion - big supply----fire dept. He's cerebral and inverted w/ gawd knows what other diagnosis, but there's certainly co-morbity going on. Anyway, I've thought about smattering him on a few sites, but now is not the time. I have to rely on the goodness of the universe (karma / ju ju) to help me heal and look after him too - hoping that means he's gonna get what he gives - nothing.
May 3 - 11PM (Reply to #19)
Barbara (not verified)
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beware womansavers

http://www.enpsychopedia.org/index.php/Womansavers ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 9PM (Reply to #18)
Susan32
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Cosmic justice FTW!

As soon as my ex-Narc D&D'd me, he tied the knot to my carbon copy--and had kids with her. (Many of my friends thought he'd be incapable of dealing with toddlers) I felt slightly jealous, but not really... when I remembered the belittling,the dishonesty,the disrespect,the public humiliation and verbal abuse. That Wittgenstein book he told me about back in '96 never did get published in '06 (it was supposed to be a decade long project,a chapter every year) I realize how happy I am without him... I leave him to God. As the book of Isaiah says, the Lord is close to the brokenhearted.
May 2 - 9PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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revenge is the best revenge.........

mine's dead..quite recently......which is what i've wanted for years...the dog murdering piece of shit is dead....and i feel pretty good about it.....my only complaint is he didn't suffer enough........ don't discount revenge.... revenge is sweet but not fattening -alfred hitchcock
May 6 - 10AM (Reply to #15)
enoughalready
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narcnarc

Oh-he's suffering daily in hell!!! I hope the same for my XN too. Be happy he's living in the depths of hell. Gosh-i sound so hateful but damn, I have never felt so much pain in my life. They need some type of pay back for their evildoing...
May 6 - 10AM (Reply to #16)
Susan32
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How I got mine

The ONLY thing that really-REALLY-pained my ex-N was me being happy, and me wishing happiness on him. For some reason, that angered him, stressed him, and put him in a state of "violation" (his term) When I congratulated him, honestly, on his engagement--he acted as if he had been emotionally raped (when I was the victim,whose honesty and kindness had been taken advantage of) He WANTED to be seen as a monster. He fed off people's anger and hatred. If wishing him happiness hurts him at some level, then I want to REALLY REALLY hurt him!
May 2 - 10PM (Reply to #5)
Susan32
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Waiting for karma to kick in

Speaking of being interchangeable, when I found out I was the OW--I met my ex-N's girlfriend from LA. She looked just like me, except taller with glasses. They ended up marrying. I was devastated that I meant NOTHING to my ex-N. I wasn't a "woman scorned." I was a woman who meant nothing. I just hope karma kicks in at some point. His treatment of me was heartless.
May 5 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
Amazed
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When the OW looks like you ,,and Karma sake

My ex N is a bastard..when I met the OW she too was so similar to me in build, appearance. I now know that they target, it is amazing the pattern they continue. As for Karma, I think about the same, how can they do this and seem to escape unscathed. They hid it well, they will get theirs,,,whether it be through child support or the OW who stuck with them,,finally getting it that they will not change. What I don't get, is my exN was with me for over 3 years,,, a long term relationship..
May 6 - 3AM (Reply to #14)
Susan32
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"The Lord is close to the brokenhearted"

The books of Isaiah and Job really handle the deep questions well,"Why do the wicked prosper while the just suffer?" It turns out that God is in charge, and understands. I don't wish bad karma on the ex-N's wife and kids... it wasn't their fault. They didn't reduce me to tears;they didn't berate me (and in the kids' case, they didn't exist) Even my friend in Washington DC said of my ex-N,"What he did was evil. He will get his." In the meantime, I do honestly wish him happiness... because I know that hurts him the most. Very few people sustain narcissistic injuries because others wish them a good lot in life. It's a decade later, I'm healthier now, and more at peace. I'm happier now than I was 10 years ago.
May 3 - 7AM (Reply to #6)
miinx
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his current girlfriend looks

his current girlfriend looks much like me as well, just with brown hair.. the woman he cheated on me with the first time (that i know of, anyways...) looked so much like me it was terrifying. i remember when the final d&d occured (because he found his new supply) ... i told him.. the worst part of this is realizing the person i was in love with never existed.. and realizing that i never meant anything to you. i was always easily replaced...ive spent 5 years living a total lie for you, and now you throw me away as if i am trash..
May 3 - 9AM (Reply to #11)
better off
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Mine moved on to someone who

Mine moved on to someone who was sort of a friend...she had long blonde hair, and then not long after, her hair was cut short in the same style and colored just like mine (tho mine is natural). Thought that was pretty weird.
May 6 - 11PM (Reply to #12)
neveragain5
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I bet he got her to cut her

I bet he got her to cut her hair and dye it. They are freaaakkkyyy!
May 3 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
Barbara (not verified)
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miinx

the worst part of this is realizing the person i was in love with never existed.. and realizing that i never meant anything to you. i was always easily replaced...ive spent 5 years living a total lie for you, and now you throw me away as if i am trash.. too bad it meant nothing to him and was lost on him... ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 3 - 8AM (Reply to #8)
miinx
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yep. he is like an

yep. he is like an emotional, mental, spiritual void.. just a black hole.. sucking in everything around him. the first time he cheated, one of his ex-friends (the fact that none of his friends wanted anything to do with him should have been a huge red flag..).. informed me that none of their circle wanted anything to do with him because of his pathological lying.. he described him as an 'emotional vampire' ... "he can suck the all happiness, fun, and joy out of anyone he is around.." ...it was all right in front of me, and i didnt even notice.
May 3 - 5PM (Reply to #10)
Susan32
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Looking into the void

My friends said the same thing about my ex-N,describing him as an "emotional vampire." They liked it when I was natural, cheerful, relaxed, and happy around them,but gloomy and suddenly serious around him. I noticed my ex-N had very few friends among his colleagues, his OWN EQUALS. One of his colleagues diplomatically described him as "different." One of my own friends, not being so diplomatic (and being fortunate to not be his coworker),simply called my ex-N the Devil. Over a 4 year period, I noticed my ex-N didn't have many friends, even among people of his own age, or other men. People wondered how I could stand being around him. He was described as a bully--and he was proud of it. In the end, he was practically BEGGING me to hate him. Very strange. He told me he wanted to be the villain. Having a villain works in a soap opera/tragedy/prime time drama--but that's because it's drama, not real life. He had this weird Oedipal shat going on...
May 3 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
Barbara (not verified)
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miinx

you didn't notice because he had you brainwashed ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
May 2 - 8PM
Susan32
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Happiness as the Best Revenge

Before I found this board,a friend and I were talking about He Who Must Not Be Named. I subtly spoke of my revenge as "being happy... and wishing happiness on others." It was vague, but she caught my drift. My ex-N threw tantrums when I congratulated him on his betrothal, and wanted him to be happy with his future wife (who looks like my carbon copy, just taller with glasses) He used to ask me,"Why are you always happy?" Well, I'm happy. Quite content actually. I live in a beautiful place. My happiness is sufficient revenge, because I know where to hit where it hurts! It's a psychic knee to the groin...
May 2 - 7PM
quietude (not verified)
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miinx

Wouldn't we ALL!!! I have my fantasies of getting back at him. I personally leave it alone because he'd just say I was crazy. I could easily call his girlfriend right now if I wanted to, but he'd deny, deny, and she'd believe everything he'd say. I know this because I was on the other side of the fence, believed ALL of his lies at one time. He could do no wrong, was my knight in shining armor. Yuck... Anyhow, you're right, it would likely be a smear campaign. One thing to keep in mind is he's not 'really' happy, he's just soaking up needed supply in order to exist...like a vampire. All these ladies are in for a very rude awakening one day. And you?? As hard as it is to hear, you're the lucky one outside of the inner circle of twisted deception. You are aware, in the know....I know it hurts, everyone here can attest to that. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do to convince someone who is blinded by an N. Barbara has listed exposure sites on here, that's one way to do it...as long as your truthful...and it's anonymous. If he ever posted those pics of you, you can sue his butt, so if he ever threatened you, a letter from an attorney might scare the beejeezus out of him.