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#1 May 11 - 9PM
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I just broke up with my narc

Hi, this is my first time doing something like this, so I hope I'm doing it right. I ended my relationship with my N 2 weeks ago today. I did not realize what I was dealing with until a few months ago. I had been in the relationship for 1&1/2 years. He was always rough around the edges and was not very good with words. I have always been drawn to the "bad boy" type. Well anyway he was very sweet and sexy for a time. He had been in a 1/2 way house for fraud, he used that to hook me, as I like to help people. He acted like he was very sorry for what he had done and seemed truly like he wanted a real chance to change his life. Needless to say I fell for it hook, line and sinker. He was always needing me to loan him money for one reason or another. He would get construction jobs but never seemed to get paid. He would admit he was needy and sometimes brag about being a good liar. I would always try to encourage him to have more faith in himself and to tell the truth. He used every tactic in the book to get what he wanted. He tried to manipulate my mother and did for a time. She let him stay with her as my job would not allow him to live with me. I'm a "foster parent". My agency did their background check on him and was not concern with him being around the kids as they are teenagers. So they even gave him a chance. He was great with the kids, they really liked him. He would talk to them about drugs and about peer pressure. They seemed to respect his view. He was a great liar! I mean he could just lie right off the top of his head. I broke up with him before and it was not a good scene. I gave it one more chance and well here I am. I finally started to look at how he could be so loving and caring one minute and then so cold the next. His anger at me was getting more and more. He never hit me or threatened to. He just started getting critical about everything I did. When things would slow down he would return to his mom's 300 miles away under the pretense that he had a crisis to deal with. then when I would get paid he would return again. I finally figured out what he was doing.I could go on and on here about his lying, manipulation, and emotional abuse and the gas lighting tactics This time I did it in the best positive way I could think of because I did not want to engage his wrath. He has tried to call me once during the last 2 weeks. He kept calling for 3 days when I stopped answering the phone, wanting me to talk to him. I just couldn't because I hadn't seen him for a month,because he his car broke down and I didn't have the money to send him. He started to degrade me and the relationship and we fought a lot over the phone. I just could not take it anymore.I tried to tell him but of course he said I was just being negative. Anyway I need to know does that mean that he has given up? I picked this time because he has no car now and has no real way to get at me. So should I assume that all is clear and that he has moved on? Your response is welcome!

May 25 - 9AM
annie60 (not verified)
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getting out

I am in a 30 year relationship with a man who I only in the last 4 months have begun to see his narcisstic behavior. I've thought it was me, that I must be crazy.... we've been separted for 4 months. I left because I needed to put some space between us to find how I could fix myself to make the marriage better! That's when I really saw things for what they are and I'm still having a hard time completely accepting it. Part of me still wants to say it must be me... if I tried harder... he's right.... And now I am seeing the angry vindictive side of narcissism. How do you deal with the lies he fabricates to make himself look like the victim and how can I protect myself as I try to work through this?
May 25 - 2PM (Reply to #12)
Barbara (not verified)
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The Narc's Smear Campaign

http://www.escapeabuse.com/?p=121 Remain calm Do not engage in name calling just tell people to please observe your behavior and to think about WHO is gaining from these lies. Hold your head high No Contact ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
May 11 - 10PM
malloryforest
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I agree

I agree with Barbara. Don not have any contact with this man. He sounds like a user, and will bring you nothing but emotional pain. Expect that he will contact you, be prepared that he will contact you, and stay away! I know it is easier said than done, but everytime you have the urge to engage with him, come to this website for support.
May 11 - 10PM
Barbara (not verified)
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hard to say...

Narcs rarely give up. They come back almost 90% of the time - even YEARS later. Take precautions. Block his emails and IMs. Delete all texts and phone messages without reading/ listening. Return all mail & packages unopened. Refuse delivery on flowers, etc. Read all you can on Narcs. The message board here is loaded if you go back a few pages and read & read & read more. You are not alone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Cost-Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
May 11 - 10PM (Reply to #2)
mjsimp
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Is mynarc giving up?

Thanks for the response. I'll take your advice.

mjsimp

May 12 - 5AM (Reply to #3)
fairy wings
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giving up

I wonder why you want to know if he has given up?
May 12 - 9AM (Reply to #4)
mjsimp
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wondering why I ask if he's given up ?

I ask because part of me is still vunerable to him and I am trying to protect myself from his manipulation. I'm working on myself to change what I need to so I can have a healthy relationship with a good man down the road. Also I don't like surprises.

mjsimp

May 13 - 6PM (Reply to #9)
fairy wings
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question

Sorry for the delay in replying. I guess you can never know for sure whether the person in question has given up for good, or whether they are lurking and playing games, however I think this question reversed as it was by Dcrutche is the best one to be asking. If you have truly had enough and you know that you are still vulnerable you are going to have to focus on what will make you less so. Firstly I would say that how he has behaved in the past is a good indicator of how he will act in the future. (I always think narcs would make good chess players, they are strategic players) the secret is to be one step ahead in your strategy. Try and think how he will get to you. Knock on the door, text, phone, be outside your work etc. Then think what you will need to support you at those times. Enlist the support of good friends who you can get hold of at any time. I had a friend who said if you feel like phoning him, phone me instead. I had another who always left work with me. Remember there is no rule that says you have to answer a phone or a text message, or open your front door. He will more than likely know your routine, so change it. Change as much as possible. Shop at a different supermarket, change the day you go. The other thing that is useful is that even if he does manage to get you in a way you were not prepared for, stand back and take time to decide how to handle it. Learn a few key phrases that buy you time, that way you don't have to be rude and risk drawing attention to yourself in public. You say you do not like surprises. Practice visualising the day ahead, before you leave the house. What is your route? Where is he likely to 'find' you? Put some key numbers in your phone that you can access quickly if need be. Some phones allow you to put them under a number key e,g, 1= my mum. 2= best friend, and of course you always ahve the Police if the pressure is serious and causing harassment. If he follows you and you are passing shops you can also go in one for a browse and ladies toilets somewhere busy like the supermarket are a good temporary escape. I hope this helps. In addition you have to know what you want for the future and be strong in the present to keep yourself on track.
May 12 - 12PM (Reply to #5)
Fawn
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giving up

I don't think that the question is if he has given up, but have you? Sometimes we have to fake it. I wasn't ready to give up either. I wanted my marriage and my family together. I feel like I just let go of my side of the rope in the tug of war, leaving him to fall down. He has fallen down, in every way that matters. He can't seem to function as a grown-up on his own and I have sole custody of our 3 kids. It sounds like you know on some level that he isn't good for you, and so you may have to give up, or give in, or just fake it. Expect for him to ramp it up to try to get you to keep doing whatever it is that you were doing for him. People don't like it when we change, and Narcissists usually escalate their behavior to get our focus back on them. They also lie and manipulate. Right now my husband is pretty much living with our 23-year-old babysitter in a crappy townhouse that is less than a mile away from our house in our old neighborhood. He seems to think that he has moved on because he is having sex and playing house with someone else. He still texts me, emails me, and tries to get me to react, but he tells me that he has moved on. I have spent almost two years now grieving the end of this relationship and I feel stronger every day. I don't think that he is grieving or doing anything healthy, but it really isn't my business or my problem anymore. I used to spend a lot of energy trying to figure out what he was really feeling. I knew on some level that he was lying to me and manipulating to get what he wanted, but he was a really convincing liar and I WANTED TO BELIEVE HIS VERSION OF REALITY. That has been difficult for me to accept, that I am partially responsible because I wanted to live in that fantasy world, even though it was so painful most of the time. When things were good, it was wonderful, magical. Now I live in the reality of my own choosing, which is pretty boring sometimes. However, I'm not creating any drama in my life and that feels really good. Things are fairly predictable as long as he isn't involved. I can make plans and stick to them. I go to work every day, I make dinner, I take out the trash. It is normal life. We didn't have a normal life before because he HATES normal. Most Narcissists can't stand the thought of normal life. They are better than that, they think. I welcome and embrace life and living in peace. I'm trying to make my life more fun without drama, but this is a new skill for me. I was always so distracted with him and his chaos that I didn't know how to make my own fun. He was fun, but in a crazy way, not a good, comfortable way. I always felt a little scared and reserved around him, even though I knew him for more than half of my life. I didn't trust him completely, and rightfully so. He made my life and our children's lives so unnecessarily stressful. I can't forgive him for that. So, my advice to you is to sit down and write about your life with him and how truly happy and at peace you have been. Are you ready to give up?
May 12 - 9PM (Reply to #6)
malloryforest
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dcrutche

You commented that you have sole custody. Right now I have primary custody. The kids live with me, we live in another stae, and he visits about once a month for a couple of days. We have joint custody in regards to any decisions about the kids education, religion, etc. When you say you have sole custody, does that mean your ex doesn't have any enforced visitation? Do the kids have to see the dad? I am wondering, because part of me would love to have sole custody. He blew off the kids again tonight. Sons were excited to talk to him on computer, and he took a nap after work, and woke up after their bedtime. Another lie, and another disappointed kid. I decided I was not longer going to tell the kids about time with dad until he is actual at the airport, on the phone, or on the computer. THey don't need their hearts disappointed anymore.
May 16 - 10AM (Reply to #8)
Lisa E. Scott
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Malloryfest

Wow, he disappointed the kids again? It's really mind-blowing to me how narcissists have absolutely no ability to feel for anyone, but themselves - not even their own children! So sad. You have a good plan for next time though. Stick to it and hang in there.
May 12 - 9PM (Reply to #7)
Fawn
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Custody

He has visitation every other Wednesday for about two hours and every other weekend. I was giving him more than what was required for about the first year we were separated, and the judge commended me for that at our hearing for separate maintenance. He asked for the minimum visitation back in February. What an idiot! So now I have them all the time.