N's and sexual dysfunction

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#1 Apr 18 - 10AM
TygerTyger
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N's and sexual dysfunction

Good grief, there is endless material to talk about here.

It would be interesting to hear what others here have to say about this.

The N I was with was someone who spends a great deal of his spare time pursuing sex. And he's a good looking man...very good looking and he knows it. He's a musician, very handsome, beautiful body for a man his age and has plenty of "chick magnet" qualities. So on the outside, there he is..the stallion fully equipped to get plenty of ladies swarming around.

What I discovered was very interesting although maybe for more experienced ladies not so surprising. For all the ramp up and expectations and excitement about sleeping with him, as I posted before, the sex was very "vanilla porn." Passionate and energetic, but porn like..almost cliche with some of the expressions he was using...stuff you'd hear in a porn movie.

The real interesting thing was he told me he had a hard time climaxing. He had no problem getting aroused..all you had to do was look at him and it went up. He said he had had problems with premature ejaculation in the past, so he had tried to compensate by holding off, and seemed to get himself stuck in some sort of psychological trap of now taking *forever* to climax.

Of course I was nice about it and told him I didn't have a timer in bed with me..no pressure, just enjoy yourself. He wanted me to tell him it was okay to orgasm, so I had to keep encouraging him. There were points I could tell he was getting frustrated. "Why can't I cum?" he would say after a certain point.

Eventually it happened, but I could sense it was more like relief at the end of an ordeal than real pleasure.

This was just so eye opening for me, because you would think the ONE thing a somatic N would have all wrapped up is the sexual experience..the one thing he lives for more than anything else.

And to have to endure a woman watching him struggle with this..after all his seduction of her to GET to this point..what humiliation for him. I mean, this isn't something a man can fake.

I suppose this isn't necessarily an N related issue, this can happen to any man..but it is a curious "crack in the facade of Don Juan."

Apr 23 - 11PM
miinx
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mine was confusing. with me,

mine was confusing. with me, he never had problems finishing or getting hard.. save for the first time we slept together.. but i chalked that up to nerves.. however, he wanted increasingly dirty sex.. ridiculous, porn style sex, to be dominated, uh, anal stimulation.. a whole host of things. when he cheated the first time, i found out from the OW that he couldnt climax with her. when he moved onto the new girl... a 20 year old devout christian who he somehow convinced to let take her virginity.. he sent me angry text messages for weeks claiming that i 'broke his dick' and that he couldnt cum or stay hard with the new girl because of what a horrible worthless whore i was to him compared to his new perfect, angelic girlfriend... between begging me to give him webcam shows, send him videos and naughty photos...right. he has a freakishly large porn collection though.. he could probably sit and masturbate to them all day. i rememeber he bragged to me once that he stayed home sick one day and masturbated 17 times.. lol. he on more than one occassion, sent dirty photos of himself or informed me he was masturbating to a video or photo i sent to him when we were together, with no warning whatsoever.. then goes back to ignoring me. sick freak.
Apr 23 - 9AM
foolmeonce
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Didn't have ED

The ex did not have ED - he was on the other end of the spectrum. The only person I know who could masturbate 5 times a day and still have sex 3 or 4 times. I guess he suffers being like that because he is NEVER satisfied. It's like a drug - he just needs more and more. One time when we were together I remember looking at his face and he had the most bored contemptuous look I had ever seen. Like he had absolutely no use for me. That look is ingrained in my mind. Whenever I think about him being with someone else, I remember the look and know they will get the same thing. I'm not missing out on anything - at least a vibrator doesn't give you dirty looks!
Apr 22 - 10AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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never again...........

add me in....now i never want anything to do with a man again....not on any real level......i still enjoy talking to my old high school friend on the phone and email...and would love to see him and paint the old town red....but as for ever being in another intimate relationship with a man..... NO WAY!!...... i will never trust another man....ever...... i would always be picking apart any little thing they said to me...always waiting for the mask to come off...even if he wasn't wearing one....... Rache was saying the other day to me on the phone....'i'd like to go out and get laid...because the thought of that psycho's dick being the last one i ever see makes me want to puke'....... and i see her point.....i've thought about that myself...just knocking off a quick piece somewhere....sort or a last slam againt the psychonarc.....then giving it up for good......
Apr 22 - 9PM (Reply to #43)
TexN (not verified)
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Buy a vibrator!

A rubber dick is better, safer, & more reliable than a narc dick! (Them stupid dickheads!) LMAO!
Apr 22 - 10AM
aceonelady
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sex talk

my ex N has a very beautiful voice,he is a afro american with a very sexy low voice and he knows that....all that stuff that he told me he wanted to do to me and with me...i think about it a lot...i am a very sexual person in my mind but i never had met a man that made me feel so free and willing just to open up in the way he made mme feel....but when i finally met him he could't keep it up ,he did it all very robot like fashion not connecting with me at all...afraid of looking me in the eyes,very very strange....first time i did all i could but still ED....second time it went very fast,he came and that was that....no affection,only very hard cold sex....That is what happens when they are porn addicts,is all in their head,but they cannot enjoy human emotions,later he told me i was too much for him i was worst then a Porn Star and masturbation or porn is easier or sex had to be with a woman with a very nice ass....at that point i was in tears,my sef esteem went very low,but later i got angry,i was at the wall mart and a lot of men turned around to look at me,i looked at myself in the mirror then i saw was not me was him...and i got very very sad...i was giving that man all of me,i travelled 10.000 miles to be with him,and he wouldn't even let me hold his hand or hold him before we went to sleep...but he wanted to share the same bed ,and wanted me to stay with him till christmas...i tried but i left the second month after a lot of push and pull,silent treatment lots of jealous comments if even a woman would give me a compliment,it was like he was competing with me,i just don't get it....we were friends i thought so,he turned in aperson i didn't recognize ....sometimes he would let me see the guy i knew and loved....He is totally NC he doesn;t care if i live or die,i did helped him alot ina very bad fase in his life,and he says now that happenned in the past and is dead and buried like me.....And i can't understand...he doesn't have any friends,only sees his children 15 minutes in 2 weeks...he is working gaming and sure keeping internet lovers....

Aceonelady

Apr 18 - 11AM
Nothanx
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Premature ejack

I heard the exact same thing from mine. He said that he used to cum to early and be embarrassed, so he learned how to hold it and now he can't cum through regular sex. He would get me off then he had to masturbate himself. He couldn't even get off with oral (I had never heard of this form any man i have ever known). He claims his first wife could not have orgasms, so he was really determined to get me to cum. I once, jokingly, said that maybe I fake orgasms like on When Harry Met Sally, and he flipped out and got furious. Now I know he is just a freak and sex with a normal woman is too much work. In fact, now that I think about it, he told me once that "it just seems like so much work, and I can do it myself much easier". I, of course, took it all very personally, and thought that I was just sexually repulsive to him and that he only has this problem with me. This is going to take me a long time to overcome because I now have negative ideas about myself sexually. He planted ideas like my "female" parts were unappealing or that he could put up with my body, but probably nobody else would. In another situation or another day he would tell me how beautiful he thinks I am, or how he can see how other men are always checking me out. SOOOO off balancing and strange.
Apr 20 - 10PM (Reply to #21)
cynthia (not verified)
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they damage us sexually

This is going to take me a long time to overcome because I now have negative ideas about myself sexually. You read the book wwlp right? It was a high percentage that had damage sexually I am still not right in that area. Now I know why mine could wait long periods of seeing me, it was hard for him to have just normal sex with me unless it was spread out the longer he waited the newer I was. What does that tell you about their live in partners and why so many stop having sex for long periods at a time. Not only do they tire of the same thing, but they have other issues constant masturbation. I once had a healthy normal view of my sexuality but I had to work so damn hard to get him turned on that I thought something was wrong with me, when in truth most men would have desired me without all that hard work.
Apr 21 - 6PM (Reply to #23)
Monica
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Cynthia...you are SO right here.....

I have been thinking a lot the past week or so about how damaged sexually I am. I used to love sex. Now...just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach and breaking down in tears. My xN/P really "screwed" with me - as Barbara so eloquently and correctly described it - sexually. He totally destroyed my joy of it and desire for it...at least for now. (I know, Barbara, at least 18 months....) One of the last times that I was with my xN/P he had a very hard time being satisfied. He told me that's what he gets for jerking off twice the night before. Why do they even bother with women? Well, I know the answer to that. It was all about control and power with me...had nothing to do with the sex. He did just fine on his own in that area. I am sure he preferred it alone; he is a cerebral/intellectual narcissist. Normal sex? He was lousy at that...could not keep it up. It had to be porn style, non-intimate sex for him to perform. I know you have written about this before. As Barbara says, they are not NORMAL, not in any way. And, unfortunately, being involved with them damages us in serious ways. I can only hope that I will desire/enjoy sex again one day.
Apr 21 - 10PM (Reply to #24)
cynthia (not verified)
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I know

Why do they even bother with women? Well, I know the answer to that. It was all about control and power with me...had nothing to do with the sex. exactly, its obvious they really dont enjoy it like normal men and my god we had to work so damn hard to turn them on, and its over before it begins. I wondered that too why even bother having normal sex they should just be set loose at a barn yard and have at it with the animals.
Apr 22 - 12AM (Reply to #25)
Nothanx
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Why even bother

Mine flat out told me that he preferred to masturbate when we first started dating. I completely thought he was kidding! My first husband was all about sex (real sex) and would never have chosen to jack off instead of having the real deal, so I just could not fathom that it was even possible for a man to prefer masturbation. Boy, I wish I had taken him serious because it could have saved me a lot of misery.
Apr 22 - 8PM (Reply to #32)
cynthia (not verified)
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hey what if we cut off their hands?

and would never have chosen to jack off instead of having the real deal, My husband would NEVER NEVER jack off, I mean how crazy is that when you have a beautiful woman who wants to give you pleasure you would rather wack off. I mean that is all you hear "My wife hasnt given me much sex lately so I had to masturbate", NORMAL men prefer their partners vs their hand. NEVER in my life had I heard of a man wanting to wack off instead of having sex with their partner, they HATE closeness and intimacy that comes with sex, oh they will perform their best with prostitutes the nastier, and perverted it is the more they like it. I often wondered if mine was a left handed masturbater or right handed masterbater, or hey maybe he was ambidextrous ha ha seriously its ok to masturbate when a man is in a pinch to relieve himself but it should never never replace and be BETTER than sharing with your partner, fricking freaks - I can just see mine standing behind the bushes watching some woman undress in her house through a window and wacking off
Apr 23 - 9AM (Reply to #33)
Nothanx
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left or right

Well, I know mine can use both hand equally successful. He had to learn how to use his left hand so he could manipulate the computer with his right hand (how efficient, right?). He had no problem just whipping that little thing out and start going to town on himself right in front of me. Like everything else he started the process of masturbating in front of me slowly. At first he would just play with it while I gave him oral, then he did it only when he couldn't get off from sex, finally he had me so stressed and confused he just flat out jacked off. I would wake up in the middle of the night (after he had refused me sex) to him whacking off. The whole thing made me feel sick to my stomach.
Apr 23 - 5PM (Reply to #34)
Monica
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Oh, my, Nothanx....ours were SO similar!

I never thought about the computer/left hand/right hand situation!! I never bothered to notice which "hand" my xN/P was using to jerk off on/with me. May I ask you a question? How was yours with "normal" sex? You mentioned the oral and the jacking off. Was yours into normal IC?? Could he perform? Mine could not. He would go limp so fast and only porn-style stuff could raise him from the dead to finish. I know it was all the porn he watched...TV and computer. "Normal" sex was no longer enough to see him through to the end.
Apr 23 - 9PM (Reply to #38)
Nothanx
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No normal sex...ever

In the beginning after only a few dates, he started talking dirty on the phone and wanted me to "touch myself". He was making weird noises and I thought I could hear him jacking off. At one point he was like "hold on a minute"...grunted a few times...then back on the phone out of breath. Keep in mind, the whole time I was like "um I don't really get into phone sex" or "maybe you should call me back later". He just acted like no big deal. I decided early on that he was "off" , but I was so lonely and he was so persistent that I kept seeing him (plus my husband of 14 years left for another woman and I was humiliated). At first he was all over me sexually, and I thought I would never be able to keep up. The first time we had sex he was drunk and could not get off, so he masturbated himself. The next time he was not drunk, and I thought that he would be able to cum...NOPE. I pulled out all my tricks with no success. On my way home the next day I called my gay cousin (who knows a lot about men sexually) for advise, and he said "the guy probably jacks off too much and is so used to it that he has desensitized himself". Boy was he right! As time went on, he became less and less interested in sex, but he loved to get me all worked up. He would be like "I am gonna be all over you later" but when later came he had all kinds of excuses (tired, headache, didn't find me sexually attractive, only liked morning sex, didn't want to disturb me in the morning, my boobs were too big, he was not used to being with a woman that had birthed children....). One time I even caught him in the middle of the night with a cum rag, looking at porn, on MY computer...after making up an excuse to not have sex with me. Needless to say, I felt completely inadequate. Finally, after we moved in together, he was constantly on the computer and jacked off like 10-15 times a day. This made me crazy and not want to leave him alone because I knew he would masturbate and then reject me because he was used up from porn and masturbating. It got to the point that it didn't even matter if I was there or not he would do it anyway. Lastly, I discovered that my underwear drawer was out of order and I found some womans stockings in his dresser drawer. I set up some "tests" to see if he was wearing my stuff and low and behold he failed the tests. When I confronted him about it he said "how did you find out" "do you have a nanny cam?". I said I have been leaving my garter belt and undies in a certain way while I am gone, and when I get home everything is all different. He just said "so what it feels silky and I like it. It's just role playing". Again no big deal. I know it sounds crazy, but I was actually glad to find out about the cross dressing because I thought that I had finally found the missing link in our sex life, and I could be accepting of him and his quirks and then he would stop being so emotionally abusive to me. So bizarre how twisted my mind got!
Apr 25 - 7AM (Reply to #39)
cynthia (not verified)
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Nothanx

he started talking dirty on the phone and wanted me to "touch myself". He was making weird noises and I thought I could hear him jacking off. At one point he was like "hold on a minute"...grunted a few times...then back on the phone out of breath. Trust me he WAS jacking off, mine did that too then would say, I am tired now I am going to sleep bye, as far as the cross dressing OH YA, my counselor said he was SURE mine crossed dressed in privacy then jacked off being the woman, remember they are anything sexual they love to pretend they are the women and they also like to play the big tough controlling man. Many of them love to watch a man give them a BJ and visa versa but it doesnt mean he is going to go out the next day and turn gay. He is not straight, or Gay if anything they are bisexual because they enjoy the experience of different sexes, anything new and different sexually is what they LOVE, but again he will still live with a woman for his image and use her to maintain that image of normalacy. THEY are F---ed up sexually BIG TIME, as well as they are in all other aspects of their lives. I cant tell you how many times mine wanted aother man to suck his thingy while I watched, thought it would turn me on, well I am strictly attracted to male parts and the thought of two men giving oral to themselves while a beautiful woman is laying there naked by them tells me, mmm whats wrong with this picture. Why even bother being there I certainly dont want to watch it, go do you own thing in your moment of gay curiousity. i have a best friend who is gay, he is 50 years old and he told me he isnt gay, he isnt straight for sure he isnt straight, he called him F--ked up. He said a staright man would NEVER allow another man to touch his thingy, NEVER just the fact they like to explore different sexual experiences and they are up for anything tells him he is NOT straight but they do that because its a thrill. They would never have a homosexual relationship with a man because just like women there is no bonding, love, or any connection, its just sex. Remember, they love their male parts and self satisfy themselves all the time so maybe another male is another way of admiring their own body, who the hell knows. They are truly messed up but a thought that makes me laugh so hard is him giving another man oral pleasure, I just crack up I cant help it. I asked my counselor has he really let another man give him a BJ and the counselor said, too many to count, they will do anything sexually. ISH. No wonder we are messed up sexually how can we possibly compete against that? I think I am messed up sexually because I loved him so deeply and gave him such open and trusting sex on my part thinking the love was being returned and all he kept saying was, no wouldnt you love another man in you with me, and wouldnt you love to see him suck my dick, I would love to see him fuck you while you sucked my d--k NO NO NO NO NO that is not what I want, I want you to LOVE ME as I loved you but that will never happen NEVER. I know there are men who would love to give me normal healthy sex and treat me as the only one but the door is closed down there, moths and cobwebbs would fly out at this point. Sometimes I think too I need to get laid but I just dont want sex been there done that, its not for me its doesnt sustain me in the least, I want the whole loving package or I want NOTHING. So for now I am asexual and thats ok, no demands on me. I know one thing I am at peace this way, if I want pleasure I pleasure myself once and awhile it was better than what the narcpsycho gave me thats for sure and he wont throw me to the curb he is always there in my drawer waiting for me ha ha ha ha -
Apr 25 - 10AM (Reply to #40)
Nothanx
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Cynthia

It is so strange how they can warp our minds over time, and they can get us to think and do things that we would normally never do. If in the beginning he had told me "hey I like ladies lingerie and getting f**ked in the ass with a huge rubber dick" I would have told him to get lost. As time goes by and they get us so confused and desperate to solve the crazy puzzle, we end up doing things that are out of our comfort zone. I knew early on that he was weird, but I just thought he was insecure and quirky. He had a weird mixture of handsome and nerdy that I found irresistible. Because he had such a hard time getting off in the beginning, I thought he was gay. I would not be surprised to find out that he has had gay sex at some point in his life. He never showed interest in men, but he loved anal and had a collection of toys. I never saw any of this until we got married and he moved in together (except that he treated sex with me like a chore). By that time I was a mess and was willing to put up with just about anything.
Apr 23 - 6PM (Reply to #35)
Barbara (not verified)
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normal sex?

Normal Sex? For a Sexual Narcissist that isn't in their repetoire... because you are an OBJECT... ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 23 - 6PM (Reply to #36)
Monica
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Barbara...I am 99.9% certain mine was an intellectual N...

Does that make any difference in how they view sex? I know that mine thought jerking off was just so much easier and efficient. I often felt like a "chore." I felt like he took "breaks" from me. Do somatics and intellectuals view sex differently? Mine wasn't good looking, didn't have a great body, was prematurely bald and wasn't someone that any woman would look twice at when passing him on the street or seeing him across a room. He was into money and power and control and status and possessions.
Apr 23 - 7PM (Reply to #37)
Barbara (not verified)
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Monica

this should help: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/allabouthim/2009/06/11/all-about-him-the-two-types-of-narcissists ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 22 - 7AM (Reply to #26)
neveragain5
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Seriously! They say so much

Seriously! They say so much bizarre stuff that you can't help but think that they are kidding!
Apr 23 - 8PM (Reply to #30)
Scooters Mom
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and wtf stuff.

He would always act like he was sooo much smarter than everyone else. and then say like fanthom instead of fathom or don my socks instead of darn my socks. not too smart
Apr 23 - 8PM (Reply to #31)
Barbara (not verified)
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sounds like

my exNH... soooo much smarter and better than everyone... a living God... PUKE! (ps - masturbating is the closest they come to having sex WITH THEMSELVES!!) ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 22 - 9AM (Reply to #27)
Nothanx
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Bizarre

I have put some thought into the bizarre masturbating comment and why I didn't take him seriously, and I just realized how weird it is in general to even discuss masturbation. We all know that it is a normal part of human sexuality, but I had never talked about it with anyone except in a joking manner. It is such a private part of life that I remember being taken aback that he just threw it out there like "I prefer vanilla ice cream instead of chocolate". I remember feeling like wow, he is really comfortable about his sexuality, and I should not be uptight about this matter or he will stop dating me. Pathetic~~on all accounts!
Apr 23 - 7PM (Reply to #28)
Scooters Mom
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are you spying on my life?

It is just so crazy that some of the things I read on her could be my life! It's like I'm reading others tell my stories. Mine also said that it was just easier to masturbate than have intimacy with me. We were napping together in a hotel room in Vegas once after laying by the pool and getting along great all afternoon and I was in my bikini laying there and heard him go in the bathroom for like 10 minutes. Acted like just woke up and went in there and sure enough there was the aftermath on the floor. I confronted him and he said it was no big deal. You know, maybe he was right! To him it is no big deal, to me however, laying there ready willing and able but instead here is my CRAZY ASS going in the bathroom and combing the floor looking for bodily fluid. He had me absolutely NUTS about this stuff. It hurt me in a really deep way, made me feel like I was undesirable and he just said it's no big deal. He would always refer to me as "a detective" because I did get to the point where I was bound and determined to find out what was going on and it pissed him off. Anyway, he also got ED and said it was my fault because he was so worried about me pressuring him about masturbating and looking at porn. I would stock up on water and whatever else I might need at night so that I would not have to go out of my bedroom and walk in on him watching porn and jacking off because it just killed me when I did and he dismissed it as no big deal. He did not sleep in the bed because he said that I had left (accidently) the phone on his side of the bed one night years before and it made him fell like I didnt want him to come to bed, then it was because he felt like he was disturbing me, and on and on. It was all so that he could be alone. He slept on a loveseat for years. He wasnt a good looking guy either. My sister used to call him Mr. Burns (from simpsons) He did love Money and power though. He would always remind me when he did something wrong or was not able to be emotionally available that he was busy earning money to pay "OUR BILLS"
Apr 23 - 8PM (Reply to #29)
Barbara (not verified)
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same

same with my intellectual exNH... and he was furious I got involved with a Sexual Psychopath... well DUH Ice Man! ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 21 - 12AM (Reply to #22)
Barbara (not verified)
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cynthia

this is the hardest for us Sexual Narc victims... they screw with us so much... ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 18 - 12PM (Reply to #18)
aceonelady
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too much work....

Exactly over here,i also thought i was repulsive to him...i even thought he maybe gay....but he told me i was too much for him,and that he didn,t need to be with anybody that he was asexual and he could get off even in a hole on the wall...He was sure a cerebral and did masturbate ,watch a lot of porn since a very early age,and he told me he was sexual damaged....and that everytime he watched porn he wanted to be a part of it but aftewards he would feel dirt...They are just fucked up...Excuse my french....He got what he wanted from a woman from me and he couldn"t take it...I am pretty sure he is now on the internet again chasing the dream ...he had it come true with me and he dumped me...i am very open minded,i can,t figure out what is that he thinks he is going to get better then me....i loved him i accepted his flaws without being weak,i also didn't judged him but i always told him what i thought,i was pretty honest with him....i still don,t get it ,i am sad and i miss him....i am in therapy for a year and a half now but he is NC and i got it bad....i am ashamed of myself for knowing and accepting the truth but i can,t understand why i cannot let go the feelings for him....

Aceonelady

Apr 18 - 12PM (Reply to #19)
woundedsoul36
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thats the thing...you scared

thats the thing...you scared him because you were so accepting... they dont want that because that means he would eventually have to face his problems (because thats what people do when a loved one has problems..they want them to get help)... he really doesnt think anything is wrong with him..maybe subconciously..but not to the extent of going to a therapist and working past his issues they dont need human companionship..cerebrals dont..they can get NS from an inanimate object as well..photos, a gift, memories.. they dont like sex..its a chore..its for the weak..its for those that are not smart enough to obtain it in other ways..
Apr 18 - 12PM (Reply to #20)
aceonelady
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hi wounded soul....is aceonelady

What i meant with acceptance is that i did love him unconditionally and i told him i would help him to get help and yes,he said he was beyond help and that a psychologist really would have the knowledge for that he said he has been reading psychology books his hole life,believe me he would con any psychologist amnd maybe he would learn stuff that would make him more dangerous then he alredy is ,intellectually...he is very very smart in that kind of stuff...and that sex stuff i didn;t initiated ,but i went along because i felt one with him....and i wanted to get all from me....And he did....

Aceonelady

Apr 18 - 11AM (Reply to #16)
woundedsoul36
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they are just twisted

they are just twisted fucks...how sad, to be afflicted with no normal pleasure sensory...that he would have to project his own self deficits on you... all womens vajayjays are all almost the same..they damn near look they same, all have the same stuff on the inside...if he wasnt stuck with the mind of a 12 year old boy..he would know those excuses he gave you is complete and utter BULLSHIT.. he did tell you some truth in the fact that he felt sex was unneccesary as he could do the same for himself...that sounds like a cerebral-they think sex is totally unneccessary and only do it to sustain and pretend they are normal you could of been the best sex, ever with tricks and stuff and he would never know..they just can't appreciate anything because they hate sex