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#1 May 22 - 7PM
finallydone
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physical illness

I'm probably being paranoid but the holiday weekend arrived and I'm in bed with pnemonia. And I can't help wondering if its partially a result of all the emotional stress. I held my ground last week and I think he's given up. The refinancing is supposed to go through next week and I'm feeling so sad but also wondering if he'll show up to the closing. He took some stuff to his moms in ohio and things are still not officially resolved. And now I feel like death from this illness just in time for the holiday weekend. Has this happened to anybody else?

May 22 - 10PM
Barbara (not verified)
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illness & the pathological

The question that gave us the best picture of the psychopath in action was “How did he act when you were ill?” Illness implies vulnerability which is a perfect time for a psychopath to take advantage of someone. Only 20% of women reported any caring response to their illness. Since psychopaths get bored easily and being ill is fairly boring, it is easy to anticipate that a psychopath would be “challenged” to be consistently helpful in illness. Couple the sense of being bored with a lack of empathy, compassion, and very low cooperation and you can pretty much guarantee she’ll have to take care of herself if she gets sick. A small portion of the women said that their psychopaths actually helped them when they were ill. However, twice that many women said that the psychopath only intermittently helped. He either got bored with helping or he only helped when others were around watching. The overwhelming majority of the psychopaths didn’t give care when someone needed it. In fact many of the psychopaths ignored serious and life threatening illnesses in their mates. Here are some of the typical answers: “He doesn’t show empathy or any kind of support.” “Annoyed usually and accused me of making it up.” Nearly every woman indicated he had told her that she is the one who is pathological or mentally ill and since she is so sick, no one else would ever want her. By the mid-part of the relationship a woman who is normally herself dominant and resourceful may for the first time in her life feel “fragile” or even “mentally ill.” She may seek counseling fearing she is the one who is “sick” "codependent" or “disordered.” Not only has the psychopath repeatedly told her that, but she is also shaken by the incongruences in the relationship and in her own emotions. The roller coaster of the ups and downs and the enormous attempts at pleasing him and stabilizing the relationship have taken their toll. “You feel trapped constantly in some weird kind of game that you didn’t ever want to play in the first place. You know you’ll never be the same again. You see who you were just evaporate.” A few doctors now realize that many of the severely depressed women she treated were actually victims of psychopathic men. We have seen women labeled sick, crazy, bad mothers, hysterical, codependent and overly reactive. Women are violated by the psychopath, violated by the lack of trained professionals to help them, violated by the legal system, and left scarred and numb to wander through life. Unfortunately, at risk children often have a psychopathic father and a scarred mother who is ill equipped to do preventive parenting. The women are then further victimized when their children also grow up to be psychopathic. All of this amounts to a death sentence for those who made a mistake; the mistake of loving and trusting a psychopath. This is a rather harsh sentence for a woman whose only crime was wanting love and family. Sandra L. Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
May 22 - 9PM
Barbara (not verified)
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illness

I have been permanently disabled since 1995. My immune system stinks. One of my kids brought home a respiratory infection 2 days ago... guess who got it? Did I mention I am having major surgery on May 28? Now I have to have my GP fax an OK to my surgeon to go ahead with the surgery. GRRRR ExNH left me with: panic attacks numb sexually hearing loss chronic pain adrenal fatigue insomnia stomach & digestion problems chronic PTSD Psycho-Boy left me with: panic attacks vomiting to the point I have serious issues to my esophagus insomnia adrenal fatigue severe PTSD (I went to a clinic for 10 days for treatment. Of course exNH abused me worse when I came home because he HAD to watch the kids) (thank god for ZOLOFT! ;) ) This isn't a can-you-top-this session. This is fact that we all need to pay attention to. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
May 22 - 9PM (Reply to #9)
quietude (not verified)
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Barbara

It breaks my heart to hear some of your stories. You are an amazing person, despite all your ex's did (and still do) to try to suppress that. Good luck with your upcoming surgery, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers...we'll be missing you here!
May 22 - 8PM
quietude (not verified)
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finallydone

So sorry you're sick! Please take care of yourself, I hope you have some help. Yes, this kind of stress can bring on all kinds of illnesses. Some of the issues my ex-narc helped create for me: *full-blown anxiety attack that landed me in the hospital 3 weeks after he left suddenly *depression, lack of energy, gained weight, bouts of high blood pressure during the last part of our relationship *aches and pains that have amplified since he left - some people have said it's fibromyalgia (great) I'm tyring to get the above under control by taking good care of myself. It's taking a lot of work to try to regain my health, but it's possible now where it wouldn't have been at all if I would have stayed with him, I'm sure. Feel better soon - keep us posted!!
May 22 - 9PM (Reply to #2)
finallydone
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Thanks for the responses.

Thanks for the responses. Oh my goodness, this seems like nothing compared to what you guys listed. But I think I understand the implications. I'm only 41 and I'm tired and either sad or angry all the time, grind my teeth horribly at night (now need 3 crowns) my neck and back hurt a lot, my digestive system has been out of wack. All things that I justified as manageable. But I see your point, the physical health will suffer won't it? No getting around it. Thank you for writing back. I'm going to take my medicine and try to sleep.
May 22 - 10PM (Reply to #3)
Elena
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Finallydone

Finallydone, My heart goes out to you. This is one of the aspects of this agonizing experience that most upsets me, when it starts damaging someone's health. I understand how you feel. I remember at some point feeling so drained, that physically I felt like I was 90 years old. I had very little strength. I felt so worn out that it got to the extreme of wanting to be in a hospital resting instead of being at home, with all the burdens I carried; this is pretty bad. Please rest as much as possible. Make an effort to rest and take care of yourself. Try to eat foods that are high in antioxidants, to strengthen your immune system (fruits and vegetables, orange or grape juice). Your health is the most important thing.
May 23 - 12AM (Reply to #4)
malloryforest
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Finallydone

Finallydone, It is so important to take care of yourself. It is time to slow down, eat healthy, excercise, and take some quiet time for yourself whenever you can. I take my quiet time while cleaning the house. I don't let my brain wander and I just focus on the task at hand. I know it sounds strange, but some menial jobs can be the best forms of meditative therapy. During my marriage, I also became very ill. I used to be a runner and one day I woke up, and I could not even walk to the mailbox. i was too fatigued and in too much pain. I new my marriage, miscarriage, and isolation were really taking a toll on me both mentally and physically. I went to doctor after doctor trying to figure out what was wrong with me. My STBXN wa totally not helpful. He would never go to doctor's appointments or talk to me about what was going on. He would complain that I was no longer fun, and that I was taking away the quality of his life. Now I understand, that a lot of what I was feeling was the rage and anger that I had at my N. It was like all the stress was attacking my own body! I ended up visiting some doctors at Harvard who gave me a fabulous nutrition plan, and simple excercise routine, and meditation. I also started seeing a therapist, one of many throughout my marriage. It took about a year for my symptoms to become manageable. Yes, relationships with Ns can be toxic to both your mental state and your physical body. Take care of yourself everyday. Slow down your pace, and be very gentle and loving to yourself. This is your time to heal.
May 23 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
GhostBuster
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Yes, take care of yourselves

I find it so freaky how much our physical conditions mirror each other. When I was with both my n's, I had prolonged insomnia, neck and back pain, blurred vision, panic attacks, et. al. With my last N, I was so tired and drained...and instead of being supporting, my N just said "I sleep great these days. I sleep the sleep of the just." It was creepy and cruel. With my first N, I remember being so out it I couldn't maintain my footing walking a straight line. I thought the ground was moving as I was standing still. It really is hell being with an N. Stay strong ladies!
May 24 - 12PM (Reply to #6)
finallydone
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You know I hadn't really

You know I hadn't really thought about this lately, but your comment (from GhostBuster) made me think of it. With regard to sleep. He can pretty much make his own hours. He works consistently as a dueling piano player and makes pretty good money - at least until the younger players overtake. But other than showing up on time for the gigs which start about 8:00 p.m. and end about 2:00 a.m. He can always sleep until he wants to wake up. So all those nights he would keep me up all night in an argument when I had to get up at 6:00 a.m. to go to work. Or all those mornings when he would wake me up at 4:30 a.m. with a problem to "discuss" of which I was always inconsiderate or unfeeling if I didn't oblige him (which always ended up being some disguised attack)... he always got his 8 hours. Always. He could rip me to shreds, have my heart pounding, my head reeling, my emotions causing me physical pain and I would just go ahead and make coffee and know I was up and would have to make it through the workday... he could always go back to sleep and sleep like a baby. No problem. If he slept for three hours and then woke up with an issue, he was back to sleep when it was over and I never understood how he could do that. Nevermind that he didn't have to be anyplace and had the luxury of getting sleep. But I couldn't figure out HOW he could sleep after so much turmoil. But lack of sleep so often is probably part of my problem. I would count the days til he was on the road... not so I could get things done, or enjoy something... but so I could sleep a whole night. And I just kept hanging in there. I think I'm gonna cry again..... it's just awful to be treated that way with never so much as an apology. But I'm preachin to the choir huh ladies? You guys have probably all "been there done that." Good news is that I'm not quite as sick today... but still feeling pretty much slow, lack of energy and all stuffed up and coughing. Trying to get a few things done without overdoing it. The house won't clean itself.
May 24 - 3PM (Reply to #7)
Barbara (not verified)
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sleep

"psychopaths have other issues in common, including a decreasedneed for sleep. Many of the women arrive for treatment in bodily exhaustion from the lack of sleep. The ability to dominate her when she is exhausted is an obvious benefit to the psychopath for keeping her awake, but so is marathon sex or marathon fighting." Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/