Waiting in the Parking Lot @ Lunch!!

37 posts / 0 new
Last post
#1 Aug 2 - 3PM
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

Waiting in the Parking Lot @ Lunch!!

Hi

I am so stressed out right now!

Went out for lunch today as usual on my lunch break and EX pulled in the parking garage as I walked to my car. Smiling from ear to ear not a care in the world and said (As I walked to my car) "Hey, get in let me take you to lunch!"
smile smile smile

I rolled my eyes!

Kept walking to my car now with my back to him. Got into my car and he pulled up BEHIND my car BLOCKING ME IN. He got out and approached my window knocked on it and told me to roll down the window (using his finger to show me how to roll down the window).

I shook my head no and he again told me to roll it down. I leaned over got my phone out of my purse and inched the window down and told him that I had warned him before about coming to my job!! showed him my open phone and said I was calling security if he didn't let me out right now! I started pressing the numbers and hovered by thumb on SEND and said "your call!'

He widened his eyes and punched the crap out of my car door (the car even shook to the left)- dent in the middle of the door now! the size of his fist!
and he got in his car, squeled off going WAY TOO FAST for a parking garage and left...

So...
I get back to work an hour later thinking things are fine.

About another hour later supervisor calls me in and tells me she needs to talk to me and then we walk down to security office - they had watched it all happen on the security monitor and they wanted to talk to me! (our plate ID's are tied to our employee Id's)

SO EMBARASSED!

They ask me for details and have me sign an agreement that I will REPORT him if he comes on the property again, then ask me for his phone number and CALL HIM and tell him he is no longer allowed to come on this property! I am sure he answered thinking I was calling him I bet he also thinks I reported him (oh well)

I didn't tell them he was a Sales Rep for fear they will call his job on him and it would make it all so much worse.

I am so stressed out right now. I have a huge headache in the back of my head! He is SUCH A JERK but I am doing better now feeling strong and I actually didn't give in !

I dont even care about the dent in my door, I am not reporting to insurance or anything it just keeps me tied up in his BS!

Aug 3 - 11AM
tooloyal
tooloyal's picture

don't forget!

Whatever you do, write it down if you have to, don't forget how he made you feel. How scary! It's easy to forget when you love someone...but he does not seem like a safe person to be around.
Aug 3 - 5AM
Reddley
Reddley's picture

RESTRAINING ORDER

Nuff said. He's getting worse. You know it... the rest of us know it. It's the car this time... it could you next time. You are worth so much more then this. No more pity for him please...
Aug 3 - 8AM (Reply to #35)
spinning
spinning's picture

bada!!!! I wholeheartedly agree with Red!!!

PLEASE!!! This is now spilling over into your livelihood! I was with an escalatingly violent disordered one and I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF. You MUST BELIEVE IT!!! Start the paper trail now. Take photos of your car. Make a police report. Call 911 next time he approaches you. Restraining order! Please! BELIEVE WHAT HE IS SHOWING YOU!!! Most sincerely, (fighting to keep from) spinning. IT'S A CHOICE! I CHOOSE MYSELF. NO ONE WILL TAKE ME DOWN!!!

spinning

Aug 3 - 1AM
ifinallygotit
ifinallygotit's picture

sorry Bada

Please listen to these people here - this is taking a bad turn. You are a very smart, wonderful and sensitive young woman - you will do so much better if you just believe that your heartache will pass... I am someone like you who has a hard time saying NO and putting their foot down to bad behavior... I got stronger after a year of abandonment and just when I was no longer hoping for a reconciliation he did a love drive thru that just had me crying and groveling again and losing my dignity again - I am in my 50's!!!! He is in his 50's behaving like a 25 year old idiot. Do you want to be in your 50's going through this painful nonsense? NO, you will have a good life soon - just take it one day at a time. This guy is messing with your employment now! I own a business and do you think I would want an employee with a violent out of control BF coming around? NO! So you need to lose him fast so that they trust and respect you at work - maybe this will help you help yourself. I am STILL struggling to let go of the 10 years and my Narc was as some say on here, one of the worst! No regard for my well being and total abandonment - crazy behavior and no insight - these guys are dangerous simply because they do not reflect on their behavior or how they damage others...they can't - they are programmed to only care about what they want...please protect yourself now - you can heal, it has not been that many years yet. Life is good! I am not giving up either. At least you have your dignity but its time to break his hold...this is serious now. He is unstable.
Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #33)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@ifinallygot it

Thanks I really feel that I have been doing so much better since that dinner where I walked away feeling so certain now and sure of what I want, so I have felt better and stronger and had no problem staying NC. I resolved to end this now, and will drive away and no more talking from now on. I think I have done really well this past week compared to how I was feeling prior weeks. I am also in to my 3 rd week of counseling and I have found a could therapist. I assure you I am not hoping for reconciliation! I have been throught the worst of the heartache and feeling so much confident in leaving the relationship for good now. No MORE second guessing/talking or anything I have all my questions answered and see that I have played a huge part in creating him to be this nice guy he clearly is not. thanks for your feed back!
Aug 3 - 1AM
Littleone
Littleone's picture

I'm really impressed that you

I'm really impressed that you handled that so well. Well done! But I do think you need a restraining order- NOW. this guy is dangerous. You have proof of his attacks now and witnesses- do it !!!
Aug 3 - 12AM
dazed
dazed's picture

BB

I feel the same as everyone else here and want to let you know I am thinking of you and care about what happens to you. This guy is way way over the line. You have given him more than enough chances. Get the restraining order and always be on the look out for him. Do not want you surprised by a sudden appearance. This is crazy stuff. Be safe.
Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #30)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@Dazed

Thank u so much! I have given him more than enough, and I really hope you all understand that I am no longer questioning that I have resolved and made peace that this is over. I don't have any more illusions but I am in a strange place of involving the police that is very uncomfortable to me. I know that it will make things WORSE for me, if you think he is angry NOW , wait until he gets papers! this is crazy stuff I have yet to decide.
Aug 2 - 11PM
empath
empath's picture

BadaBing ...it's definitely restraining order time.

Please stop "defending" this crazy bastard. He is utterly controlling and manipulative and very very VERY dangerous to you! I do not want you to suddenly disappear from this list and become another domestic violence statistic. PLEASE PROTECT YOURSELF. All of us here are saying the same thing..the continuum for this type of behavior ends with the N getting their way and/or you getting hurt...or worse. He fooled you into "trusting" him with all of that bondage stuff...you are brainwashed and he is sneaking past your radar. Some part of you must know that this guy is NOT showing "displays of affection" they are signs of a dangerous psychopath. You MUST take action to protect yourself. Don't make the mistake of thinking he thinks in the same manner in which you do...he does not see you, he only sees that you are not behaving and doing what he wants. Either way, if it continues you WILL get hurt. None of us here want that to happen to you, and I feel so helpless reading your posts and not being able to protect you myself. Please take the good advice of so many here and get a RO!!! Stay safe. (((hugs)))
Aug 2 - 10PM
Done sourcing
Done sourcing's picture

Bada, He has scared me from

Bada, He has scared me from the beginning. Him trying to control you after all he has done is over the top behavior. How many times now has he stalked you? He needs to know beyond any doubt that from here on his actions will have consequences that he will not like. A RO should have been suggested by your therapist by now, in my opinion. Coming close to you after you file will be all it takes for him to FEEL and UNDERSTAND that you are done taking his abuse. It will give him pause, and he will experience restraint or consequences. ds
Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #25)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

DS

We discussed the RO in therapy appt yesterday. Fact is DS, that I know for a fact that it would make him so much more angry, and I am intimidated so I will admit that. Considering he was arrested just weeks ago , and the car, I don't want to report it because I am afraid he will be arrested again for punching my car. I just want him to go away and I am doing better staying away, avoiding and not giving in. I sent him mixed signals maybe but I know now that I am through I will consider it but I am being honest that I feel it will only heighted his anger/rage toward me.
Aug 3 - 10AM (Reply to #27)
mystwoman
mystwoman's picture

Bada, I agree with these

Bada, I agree with these other people. It's restraining order time. I know that you're afraid of making him angry(er), and you're intimidated. Intimidation is exactly what he's counting on from you. The way I see it, you have two choices here: 1. You can be intimidated by him and afraid of his anger. Bear in mind, this could be endless with him because he knows he can get away with his behavior. He's DOING it (regularly). Do you really want to possibly spend the rest of your existence concerned about when the NEXT time this jerk pops up, and what he's going to do to you? As for his getting more angry, so what? He's ALREADY angry enough that he went to jail for man-handling you, and he punched a dent in your car while blocking your escape. My question to you is, "What could a restraining order do for YOU?". He's ALREADY violently angry. At least with the RO, you have the protection of the law, and he will go to jail for coming anywhere near you. As it is now, without the RO, he's pulling his violent, intimidating stunts WITH NO CONSEQUENCES for his behavior. He shows up on your doorstep when he wants. He follows you to your sister's town when he wants. He assaults you in bars when he wants. He blocks your car when he wants. He intimidates you in store parking lots when he wants. He's getting away with his stalking most of the time. To quote my sister, "Behavior that is rewarded, is repeated". It can be either positive or negative behavior. The narc is being rewarded by intimidating you with no consequences enough times that he feels it's worth the effort. His actions are not UNREWARDING enough for him to stop. YOU have the power to change this. With the RO, he's told to stay away (legally and publicly). There are consequences to his coming near you. If he doesn't then he'll get arrested, and there will be proven track record with the police, just in case any harm ever does come to you. It will be public knowledge that he's a stalking, violent jerk instead it all being covert. Narcs LOVE covert bad behavior. They get to look good on the surface while being total shits underneath. The RO will blow his behavior right out of the water for everyone to see (just like he deserves). 2. You get the restraining order. Yes, he'll be angry. Big deal. You're not exactly happy being stalked and intimidated every day either. I'm sure YOU are angry about his behavior toward YOU. However, with the RO, his behavior will all be public and you have the potential for becoming more hassle for him than you're worth. After he goes to jail enough times, and his behavior becomes punitive enough for himself, then he'll move onto an easier target. In short, you want to be so much trouble for him that he'll leave you alone FOREVER. His behavior towards you deserves NO positive reward EVER. You WANT the narc coming near you in any way to be VERY unsatisfactory for himself. He's a narc. Narcs only worry about themselves. In this case, you can make his self-centered focus work to your advantage with the RO. You can make his own poor behavior punish HIM (and him alone). Huge hugs!

______________________________________________________
God sometimes removes a person from your life for your protection. Don't run after them.

Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #26)
Used
Used's picture

BADA

I know you are afraid of repercussions...he knows that too...but there comes a point in your life ,when you must think of yourself and your safety..... i didnt comment on your post about going to dinner with him cos i didnt want to bring you down...but i knew there would be trouble....going to dinner, even talking to them, they think you still want them and they consider it GAME BACK ON.....i hope you document every thing , he says, he does and his actions....i am speaking from experience bada, and not to frighten you.....just be awarexx
Aug 3 - 5AM (Reply to #23)
Reddley
Reddley's picture

My exN was arrested and

My exN was arrested and jailed after internet stalking his wife... the 38 days in lock up while he waited for his day in court was PLENTY to scare the shit out of him. He got beat up several times... When offered the choice of jail or mental institution after that little ordeal.. he took the institution. What's that say? He might be a N... but he isn't stupid. He does NOT want to ever go back there. This guy is not going to stop until you prove you mean business or he hurts you... I think you know what you need to do.
Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #24)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

Reddley

He was just arrested for disorderly conduct a few weeks ago! he acts like he could care less and says he will 'get out of it' and is not worried! If I was arrested it would be a huge deal, he acts like it was worth it! I have done really well with avoiding him that I all I can say and keeping NC
Aug 2 - 9PM
bakingfortherapy
bakingfortherapy's picture

Bada...

Bada, although smitten kitten's advice may seem harsh, she seems very right and wise. Your safety is being threatened. It doesn't seem like you see it because it is comin from someone you love/loved. Another thought to ponder: Sometimes we get so caught up in the horrible drama of the Narc for so long that it feels normal. It becomes what we are used to. I had many friends ask me why I wouldnt just break free, why I wouldn't end contact.. Why was I staying in the awful, messy drama? The awful mess felt normal to me. Crazy people who mess with our heads and hearts should not be normal!! Also, I was a little afraid of the future, the silence, the void in my life without him. .....
Aug 3 - 12PM (Reply to #21)
Better than ever
Better than ever's picture

You hit it right on the

You hit it right on the head.....I got so used to the craziness that i got used to it....and internalized it....stomach aches every single day!!! I was also was so afraid of the future, the silence and missing him.....it has been awful but my future is bright!!!
Aug 2 - 8PM
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

OK. Time to get tough. The

OK. Time to get tough. The progression of this stalking and abuse has been going EXACTLY as predicted and feared by the other members of this Forum for weeks now. It was recommended almost from the beginning and continues to be, that you get a Restraining Order. This suggestion has not only come from people who have been through this experience of a violent psychopath who escalates from psychological to physical abuse, but also from those of us who have not been through this but see the signs based on what we've we've read. Ask yourself. How many of the incidents and realizations did you experience in the last several weeks that you were cautioned about by everyone here that turned out to be true? I know you had doubts and had to find out for yourself in order to truly "know" and not be second-guessing yourself. But all along the way, you've questioned it all, in spite of what you read and were told. It's as if you "know" it on one level, but you're a week behind in really "believing" it on another - until he PROVES it to you each and every time. I really don't mean to sound harsh, and I'm sure I do, but there's a lag time in what you know and believe about this man that you just can't afford to indulge anymore. We've all had and still have that from time to time and it's the Cog Dis, but not all of us have the threat of imminent violence breathing down our neck. If you look back at your posts and what has been recommended, and how you've discovered after-the-fact that everyone was right about this guy and how they suggested you handle it beforehand, you will see that the members here have been correct about him EVERY SINGLE TIME. You are the only one in doubt, while others are not, until you get proof from him. Has he or has he not proved everyone else right and confirmed your worst fears/doubts? You need to really look at the prediction track record of the people here and how their experience has him pegged and then look at his track record and how it matches up. I'm sorry, but this is serious now. You can't afford to wait for him to "prove" whatever doubts you have next time. He is showing you who he is. Believe him! You need to protect yourself from him NOW! Not wait until he finally hits YOU and not your car. Please, please, please listen to the people here who have had this guy's number for weeks now, and get a Restraining Order! Your safety is at risk, but somehow you still don't seem to realize that and only appear to see him as an embarrassment and annoyance. Don't wait until AFTER he hits you or WORSE to realize this. You can't afford the Cog Dis anymore. Time is of the essence!
Aug 3 - 7AM (Reply to #16)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@ SMitten

I AM NOT IN DOUBT although I have shared here I have made PROGRESS on my own! I have been NC! But that doesn't mean that I don't know him better than you all do! ANd I KNOW FOR SURE THAT A RO WILL ESCALATE THIS SITUATION Damn, I thought I handled it well considering my past behavior with him.
Aug 3 - 11AM (Reply to #17)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Bada,

You DID handle yourself well in the situation. That is not in question. The point is, in spite of your NC, you cannot handle HIM. Your post mentioned how embarrassed you were at the situation, but nothing about being frightened. And why should you be embarrassed for HIS behavior? It is not a reflection on you. He is dangerous, violent, and out-of-control. He's already shown he does not respect you or your boundaries and will be back for more. You may not be in doubt about what he IS anymore, but you are still in doubt about what he is really capable of doing next. In spite of how nice you've tried to be with him to not invoke his rage, this situation has been escalating all along and continues to escalate, WITHOUT a Restraining Order. Do you really think he is done now? That he won't be back in a few days? This most recent attempt to force you into submission didn't work, so next time he'll have to do something MORE "effective." More forceful and more violent. We are all just concerned for your safety and want you to get a RO to protect yourself BEFORE it escalates some more. Because it WILL escalate whether you get one or not. This time you were at work and had the protection of Security to call on. Where will you be next time?
Aug 3 - 1PM (Reply to #18)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@Smitten

Well, isn't a reflection on me in SOME way? No it is not my fault but aren't we 'the company we keep' at times? I couldn't help but feel that I was somehow accountable too. you bring up a very good point that I appreciate which was the question of why wasn't I fearful? i don't know maybe he has conditioned my response maybe I know via my gut that reacting in a fearful feeds him, that he likes it so I ignore his rage. I am not sure but GREAT POINT Smitten have we not heard of plenty of people that were not protected by RO's? in cases where the man or woman repeatedly broken NC orders and did what they did anyway? I suspect the stealth actions would actually increase towards me, in a variet of ways, internet, texting, triangulation? I have the tape on a CD they made a copy for me, I did at least that much today. I can't even describe the headache I have had since yesterday nothing helps. But I am not going back to him, no way and I will not be 'talking' anymore. I will strongly consider all of you suggestions but my gut is totally yelling not to do this. Maybe that will change. I will seriously consider your words. thank u.
Aug 3 - 5PM (Reply to #19)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Bada,

You are the company you keep when you choose to keep it. You didn't know what he was really like before and when you found out, you left. You moved out and have tried your best to avoid him but he is stalking you relentlessly and pulling all the Narc tricks in the book. This feeling that their behavior reflects badly on us is also what happens with any partner of someone with an addiction, whether it be drugs, alcohol, gambling or sex. The embarrassment and shame WE take on as partners is what makes us enablers and collaborators by covering it up and hiding it from people we know. This is also what's behind the Co-dependent label, but I agree with Michele115, that labeling someone Co-dependent re-victimizes the victim and points some of the blame at us/them and away from the true source of the problem, the ABUSER. Yes, RO's are not fail-proof. They are no guarantee at all. But unfortunately, outside of hiring a body guard, it's the only thing you've got that will have consequences and make him think (hopefully) the next time he decides he's going to overpower and control you. I agree with Mystwoman. So far he has suffered no consequences and, therefore, has no motivation to stop what he's doing. He may have blown off the first arrest because it was a fight with someone else, but how many times can he be arrested before it really affects his life? Jobs, insurance... And as others have pointed out, it becomes a public record. It's no longer covert as it has been. I understand your fear and how he may react if you do this. I admit, I've never been in this kind of situation myself, and it's easy for me to give advice without the experience. But listen to the people who HAVE lived through this. They know what they're talking about. And it IS wise to know your enemy. SoaperGirl said that to me once, and it's true. You DO know him better than the rest of us, but what you're doing at this point isn't working. He's getting worse in spite of your attempts to "placate" him with being reasonable. But one thing I have learned without question, having a Narc/Borderline/Psychopath mother (give it what label you will) you CANNOT reason with the unreasonable. It took me 40-something years to figure this out. Just be safe. Be on high alert. He will be back, of that I am sure. I'm sorry you're going through this. You don't deserve to be dealing with this on top of what he already did to you betraying your heart. This sadistic bastard is blaming and punishing you for what he did to you, and I'm so sorry. There is nothing worse than someone shitting on you and then cursing you for stinking. Smitten
Aug 2 - 8PM
.brokenglass.
.brokenglass.'s picture

Bada, please think about u first!

"I didn't tell them he was a Sales Rep for fear they will call his job on him and it would make it all so much worse."....I know the feeling, I just agreed to a plea deal because I didn't want to see my child hurt with her daddy gone away for a long time. I allowed him back into my home with the "I'm sorry's", only to be told later if I didn't provoke him, nothing would have happened. I was thrown thru my glass door & almost stabbed with a screwdriver, honey if he will do this in a public place with that much rage, his mind is flipping mad right now & he may react in a rage by showing up at your house. Never underestimate them, rejection sends them into blind rage & some have no control. Take the video & get a RO right away.
Aug 2 - 7PM
Steph
Steph's picture

Restraining Order ASAP! I am

Restraining Order ASAP! I am so sorry that happened to you. YOU have absolutely NOTHING to be embarrased about. I think it is a GOOD thing that this was witnessed by your co workers and is on a security tape. I'm serious, this guy is unstable and the fact that you are not giving in ( which is AWESOME ) may fuel even further attempts by him to get you to submit to him. I'm not trying to scare you, but this man is dangerous. PLEASE, get a restraining order and stay safe! Keep in touch here:) xoxo
Aug 2 - 6PM
rosedewittbukater
rosedewittbukater's picture

BB

This is not okay. You are embarassed? YOU have nothing to be embarassed about! He is the one who should be ashamed. You did everything right. Damaging property of others is not right and a sure sign of a controller, but I think you already know that. Don't stress out but stay vigilant and if this happens again please call the security folks sooner rather than later! xx Rose
Aug 2 - 7PM (Reply to #12)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@rose

Yes it is embarassing to me to be confronted at my work with my supervisor, security I felt in the spot light and not for good reasons. I am sick to my stomach he causes so much upheaveal it is my fault that I have allowed this pattern and it is up to me to break it. There was many times I gave in to those intmidations from him. I am so tired tonight and nauseous. thanks rose
Aug 2 - 6PM
girlsinger
girlsinger's picture

BB

Hi There precious One umm BB "I went in an hour later thinking everything was fine" hello whats "fine" about punching in your car!? ugg I was hoping this wouldnt happen after that dinner you had with him last week but remember, you didnt go along with his "script" at dinner he has alot of pent up resentment not only about that but about all the ways you have taken your power back and NO ONE does that to an N or a P in thier minds..NO ONE! he's also very concerned at how this all "looks" BB This is all about CONTROL always was always will be with this guy, all N's and P's only now his physical outbursts are getting more frequent closer together, now its at your work that "pool table" incident, I was praying was a one time thing but I know better, still I was hoping different for you this is a lethal combination,BB his N rage, his drinking, and you as the target please How about a restraining order? I know this must be so deeply stressful for you and Im really worried now, more than ever about you the N used to show up at my gigs follow me in the middle of the night it was a year I thought would never end and always increasing was that Nrage I didnt really see his Nrage until I broke it off with him he was always wonderful to me treated me like a queen for almost 2 years but when I took my power back, and I was calling the shots in my own life he was everywhere, I tried nice, angry, ignoring, pleading nothing worked, I didnt want to get the cops or the law involved everyone kept telling me to do it I didnt,,and paid a huge price, I got really ill I didnt know this side of this man (he treated me like a queen for the whole time I was with him) then he started coming INTO my gigs coming inside getting there before I did watching my every move, staying till the last song &following me to my car @ 2am BB I got that restraing order but it wasnt until I sent my football player pal over to his place one night..just say a few words to him (football guy is a gentle giant, but a rather imposing figure) that this all stopped... somehow, he understood that talk about embaressing, I really undersatnd when you say that eventhough you have not one thing to be embraessed about please let me know how you are perhaps, you could give your therapist a call so he/she could document this incident today please stay in touch, BB he is on the warpath, & he MUST be stopped PM me anytime, &call me if you need to be blessed K
Aug 2 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

K

I am home I am fine hectic day had my therapy appt today too thanks for everything I have been going a mile a min today need to rest on the upside I have been NC
Aug 2 - 5PM
nancyh
nancyh's picture

Bada, WOW what an eventful

Bada, WOW what an eventful afternoon & I am impressed by how well you handled the situation & him - you are very stong. Good for you! Nan

Nan

Aug 2 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
BadaBing
BadaBing's picture

@nancyh

I have promised that when he shows up I will walk away or drive away or ...whatever ...away nO MORE thanks