What He Needs From You

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#1 Oct 18 - 3PM
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What He Needs From You

Here's my own personal experience of what a narc looks for in a victim. You are welcome to add your own.

In the beginning he needs you

-To always be present to fill his needs. Answer his phone calls and emails immediately. He calls- you answer. He logs on- you are there. He texts- you respond.

-To believe his version of his past. His ex's bad sexual performance and other faults. How his kids are rotten and don't appreciate him. His parent's inability to raise him properly. His alcoholic mom or his demanding father. How kids made fun of him in school and took advantage of him.How good he was to everyone and how they never appreciated him.
He may even tell you the truth of his infidelities, abuses towards others, his lies, his use of porn and chatting people up on the internet. He says he has learned from the past and just needs the right partner to succeed in life. And you believe you can be that partner.

-To not believe the stories you heard about him from his ex.

-To be swept off your feet right away. You will sleep with him shortly after your first date or contact. You will disclose your innermost thoughts and feelings and confide in him. You will buy the dream he sells. "It's you and me against the world, Babe."

-To make exceptions for him and not guard your own established boundaries. A strong willed victim is best. Breaking down strong walls makes him feel powerful.

-To be sexually open to him. Stroke his needs in bed. Fulfill his fantasies.You find yourself open to try things sexually that you always found repulsive, but now you are willing to give it a go.

-To be a mommy.You cook for him, do his laundry, clean up after him. Dry his tears. Pick him up and dust him off. Bandage his bruised ego. Cater to him. Do what HE wants to do. Protect him from the big bad world. Buy him what he wants whether you can afford it or not. Comfort him. Be a nurse. Treat him like a helpless infant, but tell him how very manly he is. Believe in what he could be.

Later:
...He needs you to

-Forget the lies he tells. Believe the lies he tells.

-Blame yourself for HIS shortcomings.His anger. His disappointment in life. His diminishing sexual expression. His perverted sexual expressions.

-Accept all his moods. His anger and rage especially.

-Slowly accept that this relationship he sold you is "normal."
To accept him as he is because you love him so much.

-Not defend yourself. Not speak up for yourself. Never leave him. Refuse to report him to the police or the other woman.

-Feel shame for HIS actions, thereby not exposing him.

-Believe he can change. Constantly accept empty apologies and continue endlessly to try to fix his problems.

-Stick with the relationship no matter what.

In the end:
..He needs you to

-Accept his abandonment as your own fault so he can reenter in the future and abuse you again.

-Clean up the mess he left behind without complaint.

-Keep the dream alive. Keep the fantasy going that someday it will all work out with therapy, classes, promises, trying harder, communicating more, working on your sex issues.

-Say you still love him. Sleep with him. Call him. Answer his emails and texts. Write him. Ask how he is. Take an interest. Be friends. Be nice.

-Forgive him.

Feb 24 - 3PM
rache
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AND..........

when you do all these things and even more-its still NOT enough....He will get in one of his moods,and,devalue,discard you.UNTIL,he is ready to reel you back in like the good little NS you were...then,cycle repeats itself,until,he is finally done with you for good,as,you are no longer of service to him in what the grandmaster(he thinks he is)thinks you should be.After all,it never was about little you...only BIG him.and,to him,people are here for his service (NS)NO LOVE,NO EMPATHY,NONE!
Feb 24 - 2PM
moving on
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Great Description - Wish I knew it beforehand!! :)

This profile has to match the one of a 3-year old. They basically want you to be a doormat. Lie to yourself so you can lie to them. How sad. I was kind of in a twilight zone while he was in my life. After I contacted his girlfriend (who might now be his ex), he got mad and decided to use her email to post a profile online about me being a psycho. Of course I had it removed. But indirectly he called me an unstable crazy psycho bitch with a split personality. WOW! I believe he described himself here perfectly. He never has contacted me & instead has done everything to block me out of his life, including deleting his facebook profile. I doubt I'll ever see or hear from him again after all the embarassment I've caused him.
Feb 24 - 2PM (Reply to #30)
rache
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BIG DIFFERENCE!

A three year old LOVES-these freaks don't.
Feb 24 - 11AM
whatever2009
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PERFECT!!!

That was perfect, describes my EXN for sure.
Feb 24 - 12PM (Reply to #27)
no more
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I think

they are ALL the same. MIne to a tee also!!!!!!Got rid of him!!!

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Feb 24 - 2PM (Reply to #28)
rache
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Yes

they are! you see one,you see them all,and,they NEVER change.
Feb 24 - 11AM
Steph
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haha. this about sums it all

haha. this about sums it all up! "Do for me me me me me me and if you speak up for yourself I will twist it back onto you and I don't want you to leave me, I will be the one to call the shots and when I leave you I want you to still love me and be sad that I have removed my ever-so-important self from your life"
Feb 24 - 11AM (Reply to #25)
rache
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staying strong78

You said a mouthful girl! TWO THUMBS UP! This is the way they ALL are alright....and they DO NOT CHANGE! they can cheat on you-screw your friends and every female in your family(or try to)but if they even think you look at someone they will rage they can lie steal abuse etc YOU have NO RIGHTS NOTTA
Feb 24 - 9AM
aceonelady
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What he needs from me....

All of the above...Except at the end he needs me to stay away from him,because i did exposed him to his ex girlfriend,so he is totally NC onme and wants me to feel guilty and responsible for it!But i don't because now i know is all about his sick ,deranged mind!

Aceonelady

Feb 24 - 12PM (Reply to #23)
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aceonelady

Exactly the same for me! Tried to make me feel so ashamed for contacting his ex. But I dont feel bad either - he got so angry that I didn't care when He said I quote "I was deleted.' I replied to that text Good! Because I know too it is all about his sick and deranged mind. He knows I don't want anything to do with him any more.
Feb 24 - 9AM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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and don't forget........

he will also need you to identify, claim and bury his nasty carcass..because no one else will...........
Feb 24 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
rache
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LMAO

Got that right!
Oct 20 - 12PM
insectt (not verified)
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wow

Yes to all of this.
Oct 20 - 1PM (Reply to #17)
Hangman11
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THIS is IT!!

Pretty much everything listed explains what I dealt with. Today is our 2nd Wedding Anniversary, sad that I have to look back on what should have been the happiest time in my life and with hindsight see that it was the beginning of a tumultuos rollercoaster ride. As recently as this past wknd he was wanting me to "leave the door open" for us to work things out and then yesterday says "you need to move on." Baby, I'm moving on ALRIGHT...headed to the court to file these final two documents to get the f--- on down the road! These posts help me get my mind back in order. Holla!
Oct 20 - 1PM (Reply to #18)
Hoping2Heal (not verified)
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Hangman!

OMG we are in similar situation. Sunday is my 3rd anniv. We have been apart for 7 months now. Friday I mentioned something about no longer waiting on him and he got mad and said go out with your date then gave me the silent treatment for 4 hours. By 8 that night he was saying go after someone with no baggage you'll be better off. He loves me, will never get over me...blah blah blah Then yesterday he said i dont think your date would like you texting me. (keep in mind THERE IS NOONE ELSE) I cant even go one day without crying over my husband. I am so in love/addicted to him. Anyway he talks out of both sides of his mouth. Move on then gets all mad if he thinks I might. He did finish the paperwork for our divorce which hurt like hell. To think 3 years ago I was on my way to Nassau to marry the love of my life...They are so crazy they dont know what the hell they want!
Oct 20 - 1PM (Reply to #19)
Hoping2Heal (not verified)
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I'm crazy too

but at least I can keep a commitment and know what I want. I certainly wouldnt be telling him to go find someone else. No wonder I need meds!
Oct 18 - 11PM
baddream
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This is right spot on- GREAT POST

You have said it perfectly. What has already happened, and what would have happened had I stayed. Your post should have a permanent prominent place on our forum.
Oct 18 - 8PM
Amazed
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4joys You are so eloquent and have walked the path I have walked

You have walked the path that I have walked, this describes my experience perfectly. I have gone through all that you have expressed here, have put myself out in all the ways you have stated. Cooked for him. Nurtured him. C0UNSELED HIM THROUGH ALL THE MAJOR HARDSHIPS IN HIS LIFE. Got close to broke myself financially to take care of him. Nice to him, relentlessly, went way out of my way to accomodate his needs. What a girl should do, right?
Oct 18 - 6PM
Antonia
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Amazing

Wow, this is what my ex and our time together was like sooo accurately. Sad that it is all so predictable, every thing was ultimately inevitable (unknownst to me) and others suffer from the same fate. Excellent Post... :-)
Oct 18 - 5PM
Ellen
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I like this bit

This is good but the bit i learnt from was this: Accept his abandonment as your own fault so he can reenter in the future and abuse you again. My ex told me that i am alone because i chose to be and he has left because of the way i treated him. I suppose this is blaming me but i never thought it would be so that he can re-enter in the future. I doubt that he will do that though as he is with someone else. He has never gone back to anyone before so i wouldn't expect him to with me.
Oct 18 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
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ellen

They always manage to magically turn everything around on us, no matter what they do to us. After this last time mine abandoned me, he would up washing his hands of any wrongdoing and blamed me for the demise of the relationship -- because I was ignoring him and not willing to talk. That's okay, though. Whatever keeps his butt away...
Oct 18 - 6PM (Reply to #11)
Ellen
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Well this is where i've been stuck

For the past 7 months i have been berating myself, feeling guilty, responsible etc for driving my ex away. I didn't realise i could so easily take all this on. How did he get me to that place. It is really an amazing process. I would love to be able to watch my relationship back in an objective way to see how it was done. Obviously i still have deep feeling of guilt and blame that needs to be worked on so i thank my ex for helping me to see this. I still think there must have been an easier way to tell me so lol. It can only get better from here i reckon.
Oct 18 - 6PM (Reply to #12)
Barbara (not verified)
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Ellen

How did he get me to that place Mind control & brainwashing ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.
Oct 18 - 4PM
destiny (not verified)
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Excellent...that describes

Excellent...that describes my XN!!!!
Oct 18 - 3PM
quietude (not verified)
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I agree..

This is brilliant! Whenever I read something like this, I feel like someone was spying my relationship with the ex. This is so accurate; I hate that others go through this... The only part missing is - the happy ending: He needs you to..... continue to be his supply. (crickets churping!!!)
Oct 18 - 3PM
Clover18
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Brilliant post

Brilliant post 4joys http://stoptherollercoaster.blogspot.com/ http://byebyejekyllandhyde.blogspot.com/ http://knittingattheguillotine.blogspot.com/
Oct 18 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
Barbara (not verified)
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spot on 4joys

more: http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/07/05/narcissists-commandments ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.
Nov 23 - 10PM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
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what Narcs need from us

READ TOP POST
Feb 24 - 8AM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
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what Narcs need from us

READ TOP POST ~~~~~~~~~ The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims
Feb 24 - 10PM (Reply to #5)
Amazed
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Funny,,what they need from us, is what we should be expecting

The N relationship has it totally turned around. When I think of all the times I was "there" for the N,,and he was not ever there for me,,isn't "they guy" suppose to be the provider? Isn't the "guy" suppose to be the 'strong one' and provides for us,,we nurture,,take care of.. It takes a visual to really comprehend...