Why I went NC

15 posts / 0 new
Last post
#1 Jul 14 - 1AM
Anonymous (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Why I went NC

We are now almost at the end of this blog. If you read the beginning part of this blog you will know that all this started in May 22, 2006. It’s now May 22, 2009.

We started NC around the end of July or the beginning of August of the year 2006. First for those that don’t understand the concept of No Contact I would like to give you some information of this concept.

No contact:

What is NC? The concept is to cut off all physical contact with that person. For some of us this is not possible for those with children of tender years and sometimes other then this is still may be almost impossible but one can still limit to a great degree the amount of contact you have with these toxic dysfunctional people in your life

The personality disorder person see this concept as a type of revenge but that couldn’t be further from the truth. NC is for the victim only and has nothing to do with the abuser. We go NC for many reasons and in many different ways depending on the person in question. We go NC for survivor and to heal. We come to a understanding that this toxic dysfunctional relationship is harmful and dangerous to our well being our minds and our souls. Only through NC do we get the time to stop the emotional roller coaster ride once and for all we have been on and sometimes for years. NC screams “stop the ride because I want off!!!”.

When I stated “physical contact” I mean just that. No phone calls letters (text) no physical contact in anyway. By going NC we get the chance to clean out all these toxic emotional turmoil we had in our minds and physical body. Many are addicted to this abusive lifestyle much like a alcoholic would be for alcohol. There was something wrong with us or should I say inside of us.

Some attract these type of toxic dysfunctional relationships because of our upbringing by our parents or caretakers. We need time to understand this and then do whatever possible to correct this way of thinking and feeling. NC allows this to happen over many years. NC allow the person(s) to once again discover who they are and not what was projected on them by the abuser.

You were told you are worthless
You were told you are unlovable
You were told no one will love you
You were told you are stupid
You were told you not good enough
You were told many negative words and statements
All are untrue and was projection and given to you by your abuser.

We need time to undo all those lies and projections again NC allow this to happen over time.

Many times after the toxic dysfunctional relationship ended and because you invested so much of you into this toxic dysfunctional relationship many don’t even know who they are. In many ways NC allow us to know that person who existed before all the abusive damage was done. Many come away broken and need to mend. This can only be done away from the abuser.

How long should NC (if possible) last? Well if one is dealing with a sociopath, I would say for the rest of your life. But if this isn’t possible and sometimes for those with children it isn’t then distance from your abuser is what you need now. The more miles between the abuser and you is what we need. But after our children grow and start to see that damage the abuser causes they too will decide if NC is for them as well. But if your children are already at a age were they too have experienced the abuse and understand why NC is so very important then complete no contact can be introduce and started. Again NC has nothing whatsoever to do with the abuser, no it’s for the victim who is now becoming the survivors.

So to my personal abuser this is all my children and I want to say to you.

Listen to the song by Lily Allen because it really says it all and yes please don’t stay in touch.

http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-contact-please....

Jul 15 - 1AM
Marie
Marie's picture

Contact free since June 24!

Yes, I have been free from him that long. This has been the longest yet and I couldn't be happier. I've reached the point where I just hate him, I don't even miss pretend guy any longer. Sad in a way because it's summer and I had a lot of good memories of that first summer together. I just didn't deserve this kick in the pants. I've been wanting to post my story, I feel like such a poster child for what has happened. I'm very much a magnet for abuse. I know I don't deserve it and part of my problem comes from not listening to what my gut tells me. When I met this last N I never felt he was trustworthy. Too sweet, too charming, too fast... I had walked away from him once before too but he was persistent so I gave him a chance. Anyway, I come from a dysfunctional family, both my parents drank and from all this reading I can say they both were Ns or had N tendencies. You were never good enough, never going to get anywhere, there really wasn't any encouragement but somehow I've managed to build a successful business,own my own home and for the most part happy in life. It has had it's ups and downs, I do suffer from bouts of depression and low self esteem but I'm not one to curl up in a corner either. The problem with having parents like mine was I never knew when I was opening that door after school what I'd be walking into. You never brought problems or even good news home, everything was best left unsaid. As a child there was an incident with me and a friend. A man approached us and asked if we could help him find his mom's apartment. Now looking back I think how stupid we were. He didn't get to do much because once we realized what he was about we started kicking him and screaming. He fled but both of us swore we'd never tell because we were ashamed and afraid we'd get in trouble. That is just one of the many storie of my life both my parents went to their graves never knowing about me. As well as the time I was raped when I was 16 by a guy I was dating. Then years later my next monster actually seemed like a great guy. He treated me like a princess for almost three years. Then I don't know what happened, he just changed and began taking drugs. That's when he became more verbally and physically abusive. Having lived with my parents and dealing with their crap I told him I was leaving. That was our last fight because he nearly strangled me to death. Funny when I was telling him where to go when he called me, my father said I shouldn't fight like that with him, that I'd regret it. Ha! The only thing I regret is not getting out of there sooner. I could blame all of this and more on my parents but shouldn't I have learned from all this? And I worry because I've had so very few good men in my life. How do I teach my daughter? She asked me the other day what was it that made me marry her father. Other than loving him, I've always felt safe with him and he's never pulled any bs with me. But now that I got involved with this N who I thought was also a good man but is really a monster. How can I guide her? I know I can't shield her from life but I would never want her to experience anything that I have. To suffer the humiliation, pain, rejection. Through it all I try not to let it make me bitter. I've let go of a lot of rage, it's pointless to be angry at people who just don't care or don't believe they've hurt you. All you do is hurt yourself by keeping yourself angry. I will never forgive all the monsters in my life. They say you should forgive but I never will.
Jul 15 - 3PM (Reply to #14)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

forgiveness.

I absolutely do NOT believing in forgiving them - at ALL! http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/04/04/those-who-tell-you-just-get-over-it-or-forgive-forget whoever "they" is are DEAD WRONG, imho.
Jul 15 - 2AM (Reply to #13)
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Maire

That's great news!!! Good for you. Thanks so much for sharing. Sometimes these stories get very hard to read but it takes courage and personal power to share your story. Thanks again for sharing so much.
Jul 14 - 10PM
Lisa E. Scott
Lisa E. Scott's picture

James

I love what you wrote about No Contact. Very helpful. You are a great writer.
Jul 14 - 10PM (Reply to #11)
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Thanks

Thanks Lisa, nice to hear the encouragement!! Great thing about the board is there are so many good writers sharing here. Personally, it's a great place for sharing and healing! So thanks for setting something like this forum up and running.
Jul 14 - 5PM
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Just a added veiw on NC

In my opinion concerning NC I like to state that this should always be a personal decision insomuch it should never be force on anyone or made others to feel guilt or shame if one needs NC. Even family members may not understand the need you have for NC and really explaining it to them doesn’t seem to help as well. Even friends co-workers and associates might not understand the concept and start asking you questions so it’ best if you are really to answer them but only if you want too. Still others might see it as a type of revenge on your abuse, please never allow them to believe this and explain again while you need NC, again only if you want too. On the topic of NC for revenge if one does so then your chances of failure will be increase due to this reason on your part. Revenge is never a reason for NC why? Because again NC has nothing whatsoever to do with the abuser, it’s all about you and what you need and want. Children? This is for parents only. As I started NC should never be push on anyone which does include our own children. Depending on age as a factor and guideline for our children NC must be their decision and never the parent. If NC is told to a child at a tender or young age it can be viewed by others as *Parental Alienation Syndrome. This of course hurt the creditability of that parent and if true would hurt the child emotionally as well. In short NC must be embraced by that child when they are able and ready themselves to do so. We still need to protect them from the abuser but we do so carefully and many times silently. In short we watch and we listen for any signs of abuse cause to them by the abuser. I know parents and as a parent myself this causes us emotional stress and pain. By unless the child is in danger we must follow the law and if we don’t the abuser will use it against you. Just to recap: NC should always be a personal decision. NC must never be force on anyone. Like smoking, if you’re not ready and committed the risk of failure is higher. We must never initiate NC for revenge or to try to hurt the abuser for any reason. NC has nothing to do with the abuser; it’s for the victim. Having been in NC now for three years these rules have helped me maintain it and do so knowing I am doing what is best for me and can do so without guilt or shame. So to all those ready for NC, Good luck and know this site is a great place for support and reconfirmation if ever needed. * http://www.coeffic.demon.co.uk/pas.htm http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/
Jul 14 - 12PM
devoured_soul (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

I went NC on June 20th w/one

I went NC on June 20th w/one slip up. I have trouble with the "after roller caoster". It's not nearly as large and the hills aren't nearly as steep and there is no nausea. BUT, i just want it all to end. The aftermath turmoil sucks ass. Maybe I should not have tried to quit smoking again but I feel if I am smoking, he has that control because he was the reason I did it to start with. So I am desperate to change everything all at once. He would never let me join and go to the gym with him (even tho he repeatedly said otherwise) so I joined a gym. The biggest struggle is knowing I didn't do anything but I sit here and wonder if I overreacted. Isn't that f*ucked up? Anyone else feel this? Why am I psycho-analyzing ME when he's the psycho...
Jul 14 - 10PM (Reply to #8)
Lisa E. Scott
Lisa E. Scott's picture

Devoured Soul

You're psycho-analyzing yourself because he brainwashed you to question yourself about everything. The longer you are away from him, the better your sense of yourself will become. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is really good at retraining the brain and I highly recommend it. Hang there and stay strong. Big Hugs, Lisa
Jul 14 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

devoured_soul

Self introspection is VERY VERY necessary if you are to fully heal and avoid more dangerous relationships. http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/07/09/why-we-hurt-so-long#comment-5596 it is far too early. Please seek therapy for the DEPROGRAMMING from him (that's exactly what it is) ASAP!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 15 - 12AM (Reply to #3)
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Has anyone brought the wash in yet?

Barbara, have to agree it’s defiantly a type of brainwashing. One good thing is researchers found that the longer the victim is away from their influence the affect goes away and people return back to a normal way of thinking. Korean War (1950-1953) “They also concluded that such coercive persuasion succeeded only on a minority of POWs, and that the end-result of such coercion remained very unstable, as most of the individuals reverted to their previous condition soon after they left the coercive environment.” http://www.answers.com/topic/brainwashing http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/
Jul 15 - 12AM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

I have to disagree

Sandra Brown and Dr. Hare's research has shown that victims of N/Ps who do not seek help end up with permanent PTSD. It may lie dormant for years and years but it's there and will come up again. Particularly because of the Narc's exploitation of oxytocin (the bonding hormone) in women - this seems to be more prevalent for females. http://www.rickross.com/brainwashing.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 15 - 12AM (Reply to #5)
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Not sure if?

Sorry Barbara but what is it you disagree with ? That those who have been “brainwashed” don't get better if they don’t get help or will suffer from PTSD (Post-traumatic stress disorder) if it is left untreated. Or both? Sorry just a little confused on the different point of view? Thanks for the clarification.
Jul 15 - 1AM (Reply to #6)
Barbara (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

disagree

I respectfully disagree that with time - the pain & PTSD does get better. Especially for women. Takes a lot more than time to heal from a relationship with a pathological. B. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 15 - 2AM (Reply to #7)
James (not verified)
Anonymous's picture

Thanks Barbara but...

"I respectfully disagree that with time - the pain & PTSD does get better. Especially for women." Okay Barbara now I really confused.. Let's just do it this way okay? Whenever I refer to "brainwashing" within the concepts of relationships I am referring to emotional manipulation and control of an abuser and their victim. So using my mentor Joseph M. Carver, PhD writing on his article “Love and Stockholm Syndrome: The Mystery of Loving an Abuser“, I hope to expand on this better. [*Victims may slightly open the door and provide information about their relationship or hint they may be considering leaving. When the door opens, don't jump through with the Marines behind you! Listen and simply offer support such as "You know your family is behind any decision you need to make and at any time you make it." They may be exploring what support is available but may not be ready to call in the troops just yet. Many victims use an “exit plan” that may take months or even years to complete. They may be gathering information at this point, not yet ready for an exit.] * http://drjoecarver.makeswebsites.com/clients/49355/File/love_and_stockholm_syndrome.html Now while this article goes on to explain even more concerning this type of emotional manipulation/brainwashing such as “Each situation is different. The family may need to seek counseling support in the community. A family consultation with a mental health professional or attorney may be helpful if the situation becomes legally complex or there is a significant danger of harm.”. One thing that is essential is time and understanding whenever we are involved with this type of relationship or know someone that is. That's what I stated when I said the victim who is no longer under this type of environment that they do improve and yes may I add with help and compassion from family member and other resources. (I guess this is where I get confused as to the disagreement?) Again all I really am asking for is what you disagree with for clarification purposes only. One other point is whenever we use this type of forum for communication it’s easy to misunderstand an comment or post so I would like to throw that assumption in as well, again just for clarification. One another thing I like to add is I am not here to debate, I am here to learn and heal and whenever possible to give support to those who ask it of me. PS: thanks Barbara for your help.