They think they're not human--or at least some of them do
My ex-N railed at me for daring to humanizing him. To the Narc, there are two ultimate sins-
1)You daring to be human
2)You daring to call him/her human
Narcs don't like being humanized. It is beneath their dignity. My ex-N didn't like being called by his first name... even by HIS COLLEAGUES!
um... BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HUMAN!!!!
period
science is backing this up
they are NOT Human
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Some ex-Ns get off on being called non-human. They really REALLY like it. If my ex-N read that, he'd say, like Sally Field,"You really really love me!"
Mine said he was dependent on a powerful anti-anxiety and powerful anti-psychotic meds to fight insomnia. He said he went six weeks without sleeping about five-six years ago and nothing else would help.
I doubt he tried therapy to discuss feelings . . . better to just go on the meds and then complain about his dependency to his gf's.
Scary SOB
Last night I spent with him, he admitted to me that he didn't sleep hardly at all that night - EVEN WITH ALL THAT MEDICATION Arrrgghhghghghgh . . . should'ov run away a million times . . .
same with Psycho-Boy, he had no problem taking Wellbutrin and Oxycotin when he needed it but refused to talk to a counselor...
...oh he did talk to his Rabbi after he got caught going to hookers to ask him how to handle me (told him I was stalking and threatening him - Psycho-Boy lives more than 70 miles one way from me and i have M.S.!!!)...
oh yeah... and Viagra! he'd be up until dawn yanking that little thing...
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Mine had apnea too...and the snoring, my god, like a freight train! When I gave a shit I used to worry about him. At the end I kept hoping he'd just have a heart attack and die.
the soul sucking psychopath didn't sleep...not even when he was asleep....back when i was still foolish enough to sleep in the same room in the same bed with him...he kept a TV going all night long.....it drove me nuts....i'd think he was asleep....turn the damn thing off..and he'd sit bolt upright and yell at me...'i was watching that!'......
i always felt like anytime he appeared to be asleep he was actually faking it.....
They fake everything.... so why not just go ahead and fake being asleep? ....then they can fake EVERYTHING they do 24 hours/day! It is brilliant! At least they are consistent!
My exN would text me throughout the night,,I thought it was sweet, was thinking about me,,found out he was living with another woman,,who HE would keep up most the night fooling around with!!! He was more than ragged some days!! I don't know if you call it addicted or just what,,,
once again you are humanizing the INHUMAN - if you don't stop you will get sucked back in AGAIN
Ns and Ps need very little sleep because their brain structure and chemistry is soooooo different than NORMAL HUMANS, as proved by science
they are chemically & structurally manic-y and disordered. Period.
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
The only honest aspects of the N are the body and its language. Their faces are voids, their eyes are black holes... but their bodies tell the truth. Their bodies will not let them enjoy the sleep of the innocent;their bodies betray their betrayals. Those who lack consciences cannot live serenely.
You do know in "The Scottish Play" that Lady Macbeth is unable to sleep? As does her husband? Reread the play.... Even Hamlet's murderous, incestuous uncle Claudius lacks the ability to sleep. Humans who deny their humanity do NOT live peacefully.
that narcs and psychopaths are DENYING their humanity... that is not the case... they ARE NOT HUMAN...
and... many of them don't DENY that... in fact they are PROUD of it... they feel they are SUPERIOR to lowly humans, who have emotions...
exactly how long were you with this narc?... how involved with him were you?... was he actually your BOYFRIEND?...
why would a NON-HUMAN bother denying their reality? They have a fluid, delusional 'reality'... that isn't reality at all
they NEVER acknowledge reality
they are NOT HUMAN IN ANY WAY... MRIs have shown profound brain differences...
NOT LIKE US... in ANY WAY
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Hi,
So how do there bodies cope then. Their bodies will still need to refuel and heal as everyones does. Surely their bodies will suffer, is this why they get illnesses?
they are NOT HUMAN
their bodies do not suffer one single bit
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
NOT HUMAN . . .
I think mine was taking uppers and not telling me about it. My dad is a huge N, he does sleep, but like someone else mentioned on this thread, hardly at all at night and then you couldn't get him to budge in the morning. If he had some obligation he would drink like three cups of coffee and finally get moving. Very little sleep . . . Healthy people need at least 7-8 hours of sleep per night. Some get by just fine on 6. With N's and Psycho's, they're so disconnected from their bodies, they just run like machines. Terminator . . .
One of my ex-N's favorite movies is "The Terminator." That says it all, doesn't it? He'd always tell me how he couldn't sleep. We could call that no rest for the wicked.
If you have something that talks about how they can't sleep due to brain chemistry, I would love to read it!
I guess you are right though...it would imply that they could feel guilt, which they don't seem to feel.
Mine used to complain about not being able to go to sleep, and I always told him I slept like a baby because I had a clear conscience. He claimed to have a clear conscience. I guess he did too because he was a god, was perfect and never did anything wrong. Must have been something else keeping him up at night.
What the sleep subject meant to me:
Stayed up later than me: probably talking to God knows who
Would sometimes wake me up: knew I hated this, I needed my sleep for work early in the a.m. (also a big part of his brainwashing, get me while I'm out of it)
Would have terrible nightmares often and wake me up with his sounds and twitching. Who the hell knows if this was REAL?? He'd get up and would give me a sad guilt-trip if I didn't 'care' enough to get up with him and help him feel better. He wanted to make coffee for us at 3:00am....um, wtf??
He'd sleep like a log the latter part of the night, this is usually when I wake up sporadically. I'd mention it to him...that I notice he was sleeping like a baby, he'd deny it and say he hardly slept at all. The 'not sleeping routine' was a good excuse for him to get more sympathy from me, and it also triggered my abandonment issues (caused by him), because he'd talk about missing his country, etc..and that's why he's not sleeping.
So, even when you THINK you might get a 6-8 hour BREAK from the N in the way of sleeping, you don't get a break. It's 24/7 bullsh**!
I think everynight for them is a time to go deviant,,,txting me to all hours,,,,sexy stuff,,I would be there in bed with the phone going,,,in my right mind,,thinking is it okay if I get some sleep,,gotta get up,,,,sleep is good!)
I think he also went out on a few dates late at night,,,,even outside of the two of us he was seeing,,,he didn't seem to sleep much,,,,snored,,,and very restless, I think he has sleep apnea,,,,,
mine hardly slept.. when he did sleep he could be woken by the slightest noise... and if you were the one who made the slightest noise that woke him.. prepare for the rage.
he always raged at me about how he couldnt sleep next to me because i 'made too much noise'.. i dont snore.. apparently listening to me breathe was too much for him?
He joked how he could fall asleep on a picket fence. Narcaleptic at times. But he was restless, snored at night...
the similarities are so creepy....
Michvegas
My N could sleep anywhere at anytime. He said Napoleon was the same way! I guess he liked to identify with Napoleon. And, like so many here . . . he would become ENRAGED if anybody (me) woke him up. We lived in the house he wanted . . . directly on a pond. In the summer he would be annoyed because the ducks quacked. He stayed up very late to work in his study. He was an academic. I never knew if he did porn sites. I have no idea. I think he was too caught up in his work to waste time on that stuff. In fact, he always enters into "instant" relationships because chasing skirts is too much trouble because it takes time from his academic pursuits.
They think they're not human--or at least some of them do
that's because...
That would make my ex-N HAPPY
Needed Meds
same here
sleep
Mine had apnea too...and the
VAMPIRES DON'T SLEEP
This made me laugh...
VAMPIRES DON'T SLEEP
Cynthia
My exN used to text me all through the night
why they don't sleep
No rest for the wicked
you seem to keep insisting, susan
not H U M A N
So how
healingnow
LOL!
The irony
Brains
brain chemistry
That is why we cannot truly connect with them
Mine used to complain about
sleep
How they stay up at night,,,,
mine hardly slept.. when he
sleep issues
Mine Too